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Post by sandgroperbill » 01 Jan 2016, 11:18 am

Did you guys know that kangaroos are a threatened species?

Apparently the Californian government and US humane society do...

http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2015 ... -australia
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Post by Title_II » 01 Jan 2016, 12:18 pm

Commiefornia is the land of fruits and nuts. Everybody is just hoping and waiting for "The Big One" (earthquake) at this point to send all those hippies and Mexicans into the sea.
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Post by <<Genesis93>> » 01 Jan 2016, 12:24 pm

I looked into this a while back.... as I recall the 'ban' was put inplace in the 70's???? on the basis that roos were threatened :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Its Kalifornia...what would you expect, it does prove that people will believe whatever theyre told...

My philosophy is to not believe anything you think, let alone what others tell you.

The ban is as sensible as Straya banning Lion stuff.... if the animals in its live form is not regulated by a state..... they have no right to regulate it in its 'dead' form.... doing so is based on nothing but misplaced 'moral outrage'..... and its highly offensive to the State that are inhabited by the animals....

Example, elephants; they are not endangered, in fact they are culled in areas, yet if I lawfully involve myself in a cull (which I may infact do in the future, we'll see....) fully in line with the law of the land, I cant bring the product of the activity back home.... ridiculous, its all about the moral outrage of the do-gooders here in Aus.

With the Kali ban, as I recall it relates to using the hide for footballs, boots etc, my best footy boots were roo-hide..... anyway.... whatevs....when the socialist liberal tards are in control....
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Post by Oldbloke » 01 Jan 2016, 5:18 pm

"Did you guys know that kangaroos are a threatened species?"
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Post by Heckler303 » 01 Jan 2016, 6:21 pm

Oldbloke wrote:"Did you guys know that kangaroos are a threatened species?"
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That's a pretty big shock, our iconic animal obviously needs attention to make sure it doesn't go extinct :sarcasm:
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Post by brett1868 » 01 Jan 2016, 9:51 pm

Last trip north...3 nights, 78 Roo's and the only threat was running out of ammo....
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Post by sandgroperbill » 01 Jan 2016, 11:28 pm

Same around here atm . the roos around me didn't get the memo that they're threatened. Numbers are pretty high atm, and it shouldn't be long before a couple of farmers get permits to reduce them again.

Not that uncommon to go past a paddock crawling with them just before dark. A few weeks back we drove past a paddock, roughly 5 acres, and would have been easily over 100 roos grazing there. Mind you, the guy that owns the paddock doesn't run livestock and leaves them alone to keep his grass down
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Post by bigfellascott » 02 Jan 2016, 5:55 am

Someone should start catching these roos and start dropping em off at these wingnuts homes, maybe then they will get the message as to what it's like living with a heap of em and the damage they do.

It can be down right dangerous driving at night around here, the amount of dead roos on the road can get ridiculous at times (I counted 1 nearly every 100m or for a good km or so a few weeks back, farkin things were dead all over the joint, that to me is a real problem that needs addressing and fast! (mind you that's how the smash repairs earn their living from these bloody things) :D
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Post by Strikey » 02 Jan 2016, 6:26 am

These animal welfare mobs need to be dragged out of the 'burbs and have look at the effect 5yrs worth of drought in Western Qld is having on our iconic roos, the numbers out there are phenomenal, almost plague proportions, but it is very depressing to see these animals die slowly from thirst and starvation, there is nothing humane about slow lingering deaths. I have recently been out to a property where they have shot 14,000 in the last 12months, ( all legal, done under a DMP issued by the DPI ) this a waste of a resource and could possibly have been an avenue of income for the farmer. You can't tell me our Kangaroos are under threat of extinction ;)

Brett, only 78, you weren't trying, :sarcasm: I shot 160 in 8 hours :D :D :thumbsup:
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Post by Title_II » 02 Jan 2016, 6:52 am

What the heck do you do with 160 dead roos? Just leave them there? Seems to me that would invite a plague of pests. Or do you burn/bury them?
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Post by bigfellascott » 02 Jan 2016, 7:04 am

Title_II wrote:What the heck do you do with 160 dead roos? Just leave them there? Seems to me that would invite a plague of pests. Or do you burn/bury them?


Generally they just get left where they are dropped, then we shoot the pigs that come in to feed on em :D
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Post by Strikey » 02 Jan 2016, 7:36 am

Title_II wrote:What the heck do you do with 160 dead roos? Just leave them there? Seems to me that would invite a plague of pests. Or do you burn/bury them?

They can't be boxed ( sent to the chillers, they are that skinny it wouldn't be worth the effort anyway ) so we just leave them where they fall, pigs, wild dogs, crows will clean up some of the carcasses but they just rot away and bloody stink :lol:
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Post by Title_II » 02 Jan 2016, 7:39 am

What does boxed and sent to the chillers mean?
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Post by Strikey » 02 Jan 2016, 7:47 am

Sorry mate, a bit of Aussie slang there, ;) The pro roo shooters usually deliver their roos to refrigerated containers ( chillers, boxes ), then whoever is running the chillers will take the carcasses to be used for pet food or where I am in Central QLD, the roo meat is being used to supply the local councils/shires with bait for their wild dog problems, hope that clears it up for you :thumbsup:
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Post by Title_II » 02 Jan 2016, 8:05 am

OK, thanks :)
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Post by <<Genesis93>> » 02 Jan 2016, 9:19 am

Title, we'll have to organise a sample of 'Roo over to you.... dry ice, vac sealed... should be do-able; then you can try and be 'converted'.... As far as the tards in Kali, we'll have to tell them its GMO free, organic biodynamic, etc AND a cure for low IQ....

But the discourse on the side of the PETA types....... and other likeminded so-and-so's, they just want to stop any activity that utilises resources, whether animate or inanimate -

get a load of this stupidity;

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Australian Society for Kangaroos

Dedicated to the Victims of the World's Largest Wildlife Massacre

Kangaroo Meat: Not so Clean, Green nor Humane

NOT SO GREEN

Environmental arguments that kangaroo meat is a sustainable alternative to beef and lamb does not withstand rigorous scientific scrutiny, according to ecologists Dr David Croft, Dr Dror Ben Ami and Dr Dan Ramp from the 'THINKK' tank at the University of Technology (UTS) Sydney.

According to scientists at the UTS, the number of kangaroos necessary to replace meat production from sheep and cows is ecologically unfeasible. They found that to provide Australians with just one small portion of kangaroo meat per week, 22 million kangaroos would have to be killed every year. The total population of kangaroos would need to be 151 million to support this off-take. This is more than five times the 30-year average population of 27 million, to provide one serving of meat per Australian per week. Therefore the "go green, eat roo" push is sham science.I can


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.........So what theyre saying is that Kangaroo meat is 'not green', because you would need TOO MANY kangaroos to fully replace the beef and lamb industries! So either replace them or nothing? There's no mention of supplementing the usual meat, to a greater degree nor promoting Roo in the current environment...

No, they keep promoting the cartoon version of cute little roos so the kids are taught on the TV, at school, that you can not possible kill and eat it.

Then there's goat.....dont start me on that...

First of all who want to replace beef and lamb? (apart from the PETA types...)

When we have drought, which our nation is perpetually in it would appear in one or more states at a time, the local populations are starving, dehydrating and at these times coming into urban/outer-urban/peri-urban areas..... We live on the outskirts of Melbourne and since the last 5 years have Roos and Wallabies literally at our backdoor.... drought/no-food/no-water in their previously usual ranges and absolute legal protection (culling only under permit).... the only culling around here is by motorvehicle (very common here ....now)
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Post by Sam45 » 02 Jan 2016, 9:25 am

brett1868 wrote:Last trip north...3 nights, 78 Roo's and the only threat was running out of ammo....


Trip i just came back from at Barcaldine in QLD 3 days = 278 Roo's. The Sheep station we were working on was infested with them lol.
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Post by Noisydad » 02 Jan 2016, 10:21 am

bigfellascott wrote:
Title_II wrote:What the heck do you do with 160 dead roos? Just leave them there? Seems to me that would invite a plague of pests. Or do you burn/bury them?


Generally they just get left where they are dropped, then we shoot the pigs that come in to feed on em :D

The farming community will know of Nobili stubble mulchers - imagine a high speed rotary hoe on a tractor. They make roos just disappear!
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Post by Oldbloke » 02 Jan 2016, 4:54 pm

Strikey wrote:Sorry mate, a bit of Aussie slang there, ;) The pro roo shooters usually deliver their roos to refrigerated containers ( chillers, boxes ), then whoever is running the chillers will take the carcasses to be used for pet food or where I am in Central QLD, the roo meat is being used to supply the local councils/shires with bait for their wild dog problems, hope that clears it up for you :thumbsup:


Sometimes it goes for human consumption. Makes nice snags. (Sausages)
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Post by sbd3927 » 02 Jan 2016, 7:18 pm

<<Genesis93>> wrote:...22 million kangaroos would have to be killed every year. The total population of kangaroos would need to be 151 million to support this off-take. This is more than five times the 30-year average population of 27 million, to provide one serving of meat per Australian per week. Therefore the "go green, eat roo" push is sham science.I can[/i]

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.........So what theyre saying is that Kangaroo meat is 'not green', because you would need TOO MANY kangaroos to fully replace the beef and lamb industries!


A point in favour not against...
"Garnaut's study concluded that by 2020, beef cattle and sheep numbers could be reduced by seven million and 36 million respectively, allowing for an increase in kangaroo numbers to 240 million by 2020, from 34 million now."
http://www.smh.com.au/world/put-kangaro ... -79q2.html

There's multiple benefits for the environment in farming roo's instead, soft paws vs hard hoof, less soil damage, an animal that can self abort or suspend pregnancy in drought.. but the real problem is probably fencing. Not easy to contain and who wants to raise a mob for a neighbour to harvest. Should still work nicely for the northern cattle stations that measure their holdings in 100's of square kilometres, and those tropical cattle breeds are only fit for mince anyhow :D
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Post by Oldbloke » 02 Jan 2016, 7:50 pm

Lol, l, just remembered. I saw 2 dead roos on the Melbourne ring road last week. And about 12 while I was looking around the SF that day.
They must be confused. Its rare to not see tham by the dozen. Lol
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Post by adam » 02 Jan 2016, 7:53 pm

This is what you get when people who have known nothing but prosperity their entire lives...

But don't worry - give it a few more years. with the way America's economy is going at the moment and the same people wanting to ban it now will be willing to import or eat any meat or decent food they can get...

China knows this... hence why they're buying up land in Australia
The middle east knows this... hence why they're buying up land in Australia

... whilst the West continues to go on in denial because most people have never known what it's like to live in true poverty with hunger.
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Post by bigfellascott » 02 Jan 2016, 8:47 pm

Roo tastes like crap to me, I'd rather beef, pork, lamb, chicken etc any day over that crap.
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Post by brett1868 » 02 Jan 2016, 11:36 pm

I don't mind a Skippy steak from time to time, has to be cut across the grain and cooked on a very hot plate or it'll be tough. One of the lesser known uses of Kangaroo is for their leather hides, much lighter that cow, more resistant to abrasion and softer. Kangaroo leather has been used by the top MotoGP riders for many years as it provides superior protection to that of conventional cow leather. I'm surprised Kangaroo leather hasn't been offered as an option in an Australian made car but guess the tards would be up in paws over it...
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Post by sandgroperbill » 03 Jan 2016, 12:32 am

Funnily enough, thats exactly why the moratorium was put in place. Apparently their sportswear companies lobbied against the ban
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Post by <<Genesis93>> » 03 Jan 2016, 6:38 am

To cowhide and pighide producers/importers probably had a say for the ban...
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Post by Title_II » 03 Jan 2016, 7:32 am

<<Genesis93>> wrote:Title, we'll have to organise a sample of 'Roo over to you.... dry ice, vac sealed... should be do-able; then you can try and be 'converted'....


I'll give it a shot. Just don't put a pic of a muppet on the package :)
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Post by Korkt » 04 Jan 2016, 10:03 am

brett1868 wrote:I don't mind a Skippy steak from time to time, has to be cut across the grain and cooked on a very hot plate or it'll be tough.


And on the rarer side too IMO.

Once you hit medium done it's already tough.
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Post by <<Genesis93>> » 04 Jan 2016, 10:39 am

Title_II wrote:
<<Genesis93>> wrote:Title, we'll have to organise a sample of 'Roo over to you.... dry ice, vac sealed... should be do-able; then you can try and be 'converted'....


I'll give it a shot. Just don't put a pic of a muppet on the package :)


Muppets are protected species in your state, right? :lol:
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Post by Title_II » 04 Jan 2016, 11:00 am

And drop bears :)
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