SSAA...actually doing something?

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Re: SSAA...actually doing something?

Post by bladeracer » 31 Jul 2016, 12:09 am

Oldbloke wrote:Seems to me many complain we do not have a strong gun lobby. But the same people will not suport the SSAA by being a member. If you do not want to be part of the solution then stop winging like a 5 yr old.

SSAA are far from perfect but they are having a crack. If you dont like it faaark off. And dont use their ranges.

Or join and be part of the it, have a say in the management.


I was a member but nothing ever seemed to come of it so I gave it up, like many others I think.
Can you provide some examples of them "having a crack" at supporting shooters? Did they put anything out promoting our lifestyle in the eyes of the general public leading up to the election, 'cause I missed it if they did. The general public doesn't even know the SSAA exists in my experience.

I've never even found one of their ranges, though I have found a range near me that vehemently refuses any association with SSAA right there on their homepage (doesn't look to me like SSAA is offering any support to at least one group of shooters).
"Secondly, we are not in any way associated with the SSAA. It is irrelevant."
http://www.lilydalerifleclub.com.au/
If I were SSAA and sincerely supported shooters I would be making a serious effort to find why an actual shooting club is so against what we do, and fix it.

Any ranges they do have should be widely advertised to the non-shooting public to "come in and try" at the very least, in my opinion. I don't recall ever seeing any advertising for the shooting sports in any of the media that matters to non-shooters. Possibly People Magazine came close occasionally many years ago.

This is SSAA Victoria's social media "presence" for example, and you'll only find it via a deliberate search for it.
https://www.facebook.com/search/2796638 ... rface=tyah
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Re: SSAA...actually doing something?

Post by Oldbloke » 31 Jul 2016, 9:15 am

Understand where you guys are coming from. They seem to be media shy. But it wont get better unless you get involved.

http://ssaavic.com.au/index.php/2015-12 ... -the-board
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Re: SSAA...actually doing something?

Post by bladeracer » 31 Jul 2016, 9:20 am

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Oldbloke wrote:I also promote the sport by dragging anyone and everyone that I can out for a shoot and then bugging them till they get their licence.


Quite possibly the best possible way of increasing shooter numbers, but now made illegal, even on your own private property, in every state except WA. Now we can only bring a mate along to an approved range...when it's open. Now it's illegal to even let somebody handle our firearms except at an approved range. How do we bring new shooters in under these conditions? Sure, we can show our guns to friends and family _secretly_ on the understanding that both of us will be in trouble if word gets about...but why on earth should we have to behave like this. It's a bloody ludicrous situation.
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Re: SSAA...actually doing something?

Post by bladeracer » 31 Jul 2016, 11:53 am

Oldbloke wrote:Understand where you guys are coming from. They seem to be media shy. But it wont get better unless you get involved.

http://ssaavic.com.au/index.php/2015-12 ... -the-board



They don't seem media shy about promoting themselves to existing shooters, but the only result from that is likely to be more money in membership fees so they can redecorate their offices and take home a bigger wage every week.
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Re: SSAA...actually doing something?

Post by bluerob » 02 Aug 2016, 6:39 am

bladeracer wrote:
Oldbloke wrote:Understand where you guys are coming from. They seem to be media shy. But it wont get better unless you get involved.

http://ssaavic.com.au/index.php/2015-12 ... -the-board



They don't seem media shy about promoting themselves to existing shooters, but the only result from that is likely to be more money in membership fees so they can redecorate their offices and take home a bigger wage every week.


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Re: SSAA...actually doing something?

Post by Angel » 04 Aug 2016, 5:59 pm

I'm genuinly curious, why is there such anti ssaa rhetoric being displayed. My local range is ssaa qnd they are a good bunch of blokes that just want to enjoy the sport. Im only new to shooting but they have been good with me.
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Post by MR. WINCHESTER » 04 Aug 2016, 6:04 pm

Angel wrote:I'm genuinly curious, why is there such anti ssaa rhetoric being displayed. My local range is ssaa qnd they are a good bunch of blokes that just want to enjoy the sport. Im only new to shooting but they have been good with me.


All members of the shooting fraternity, are generally 'good blokes / gals'.
Most of the negative comment you read, relates to ( perceived ? ) pathetic administration ....
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Re: SSAA...actually doing something?

Post by bladeracer » 04 Aug 2016, 6:12 pm

Angel wrote:I'm genuinly curious, why is there such anti ssaa rhetoric being displayed. My local range is ssaa qnd they are a good bunch of blokes that just want to enjoy the sport. Im only new to shooting but they have been good with me.


The members are fine, just like all of us.
It's the organisation that is the problem.
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Re: SSAA...actually doing something?

Post by on_one_wheel » 04 Aug 2016, 9:12 pm

Angel wrote:I'm genuinly curious, why is there such anti ssaa rhetoric being displayed. My local range is ssaa qnd they are a good bunch of blokes that just want to enjoy the sport. Im only new to shooting but they have been good with me.


That's because some people join the SSAA thinking that they are joining an organisation that will fight against further restrictions and perhaps try to have some of the stupid restrictions undone.
They think the SSAA will lobby for whats right like a pro gun lobby group would.

Eventually people realize that the SSAA couldn't fight their way out of wet a paper bag.

They don't have the testicular fortitude to stand up and make noise against the government and police whenever further unnecessary restrictions are tabled.

People are just plain disappointed when they discover that the SSAA are little more than a club.
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Re: SSAA...actually doing something?

Post by juststarting » 04 Aug 2016, 9:27 pm

More than a club?
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Re: SSAA...actually doing something?

Post by Cryptic » 04 Aug 2016, 11:12 pm

Went to a SSAA range to book training and got spoken to rudely and treated like crap. Went around the corner to QRA was spoken to friendly and ended up booking with them. Have never dealt with SSAA since.
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Post by Bourt » 08 Aug 2016, 2:03 pm

Cryptic wrote:Have never dealt with SSAA since.


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Post by Gwion » 08 Aug 2016, 2:09 pm

SSAA keep sending me renewal notices but i can't bring myself to pay it since i am now a member of the rifle association of F-class. Only thing i'm wondering about is insurance whilst out in the field.....
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