happyhunter wrote:I know what empathy is and it is easily manipulated, which is exactly what the anti crowd are doing. In regards to the gun debate we should be attempting to get people to think rationally, not emotionally.
Agreed. But that doesn't mean we need to completely disconnect or disregard what victims are going through, or attack the person themselves. I believe attacking someone's logic and policy is effective and helpful - and I'm completely behind you on that. But I'm opposed to people attacking a person themselves (especially a victim) as I believe it is at the least counter productive and actually helps and feeds the fuel of GCA and their emotional plee.
I mean - (and being a firearm owner myself) - the message I was getting from some of the posts on this forum is that gun owners care more about keeping our guns than the victims of terrorism. I'm assuming that this is not the message that you were intending to portray, but if I was getting that I can only wonder what someone with no firearms experience would think.
Alternatively, I believe there would be more benefit in showing people we're not heartless gun lovers, but we actually care about victims - and that is actually part of the reason why we want to tear down these bad GCA policies. Yes we want to get focus away from targeting LFO's on real crime - but not just so we keep our guns - so that we can all make a positive difference that might help in the future - instead of pretending which is what the government did in the wake of PA.
<<Genesis93>> wrote:Unfortunately any such death is fodder for the greens and gca.... they could have only hoped he was shot with a semiauto
Yes - it doesn't take a stretch of the imagination to think that behind closed doors that some of the greens and GCA's would have been jumping for glee that another firearm was used by a terrorist so they could further their cause and get more people 'on side' (especially if there's another election coming).
I believe that Alpha Chang's fathers death was
contributed to indirectly by JH, GCA and the Greens. Innefective changes to our laws that only targeted law abiding people, and then the naievity to think that people were safer from criminals as a result.
And now, Alpha has unfortunately being sucked into believing their propaganda and now is unwittingly potentially assisting crime in the same way - by further promoting the targeting the wrong group, and wanting more focus on innefective laws that hurt LFO's and not criminals.
How helpful would it be if there were some victims that had an organisation to come forward to that would help expose the real issue at hand. Not just to us LFO's - but to the country in general - potentially reducing the number of future deaths?
Guys - I might disagree with you, and even challenge you in a number of areas - but please don't mistake me as being your enemy. I live with the thought that it's far better to be challenged by someone who shares your concerns so that we can all improve than attacked by someone who is straight out against you that wants to pull you down.