Private 'arsenals' of guns - Green media hype...

[Stubbles McBeard]

Well, I could argue that others don't understand why motorcyclists need to ride just for recreation either.

Lane splittng, doing wheelies and parking on the footpath are genuine reasons for owning a motorbike

Lets not forget 0-300 in 17 seconds Us motorcyclists got hit with speed limiters many years ago cause bikes were way too fast and dangerous. At least it was a realistic limit set to 300kph so only affected a few bikes. Weird is that my speedo seems to stop at 299kph though the bikes still pulling like a teenager. I ride bikes, not for the speed but for the arm wrenching acceleration which is like crack. Before we start bashing motorcyclists, lane splitting has been legal for a few years now, by parking on the footpath I'm leaving more space for cars to park. According to the latest data, 95% of all crashes where a car is involved is the fault of the car driver yet us motorcyclists pay more for our greenslips??? Think about it...it's the cars fault but it's my insurance that goes up???
Maybe the shooters should seek an alliance with the motorcyclists as we're both getting screwed by the government....Since I shoot and ride I'm copping it like an alter boy on Sunday

Don't you know, motorbikes fall over if you go too slow!

[happyhunter]

Well, I could argue that others don't understand why motorcyclists need to ride just for recreation either.

Lane splittng, doing wheelies and parking on the footpath are genuine reasons for owning a motorbike

Lets not forget 0-300 in 17 seconds Us motorcyclists got hit with speed limiters many years ago cause bikes were way too fast and dangerous. At least it was a realistic limit set to 300kph so only affected a few bikes. Weird is that my speedo seems to stop at 299kph though the bikes still pulling like a teenager. I ride bikes, not for the speed but for the arm wrenching acceleration which is like crack. Before we start bashing motorcyclists, lane splitting has been legal for a few years now, by parking on the footpath I'm leaving more space for cars to park. According to the latest data, 95% of all crashes where a car is involved is the fault of the car driver yet us motorcyclists pay more for our greenslips??? Think about it...it's the cars fault but it's my insurance that goes up???
Maybe the shooters should seek an alliance with the motorcyclists as we're both getting screwed by the government....Since I shoot and ride I'm copping it like an alter boy on Sunday

yeah, one of mine will do 299 indicated but it's closer to 296 if you do the engine RPM gearing calculations. Lane splitting only became legal in Victoria recently although it has been common practise and ignored by the police because even they knew in many situations it's safer to lane split. It's a shame they don't apply the same logic to irrational gun laws.

Something I notice being a rider is we stick together. Ride past another bike and you get a friendly nod or wave. Riders are cohesive, represenetd by one organisation.

[<<Genesis93>>]

At what point does a few firearms become an arsenal? Is there a number...

To be honest, I'd have a multi tiered approach to safe storage and providing those requirements were met then you could have anything you liked. Also with semi-autos possibly a min length of continuous licensing. For example, for years 0-5 you're restricted to the usual Cat A / B categories, 6-10 years add semi auto's up to 10 round capacity, >10 years providing appropriate storage then you should be able to have almost anything you wanted. This approach would ensure that those who are genuine enthusiasts are rewarded for their good character and it encourages people to do the right thing.

I thought arsenal was just the plural of gun.... 1 gun , 2 or more arsenal

[Title_II]

I think it's probably actually one gun.

You do need to send some of these people to spend a week with me and my friends.

[<<Genesis93>>]

I'm truly embarrassed, to think our brothers overseas are possibly reading this, and are aware that the whole Aussie (lawful) firearms community is effective at war against very very few gun-bigots, if you like, who have the absolute backing of the media, and especially at the moment are profiting in the way of huge media/social media coverage SIMPLY due to gun control being a lefty / liberal / progressive / & marketed to the community as a non-violence campaign (which it is not, its simply a dis armament movement as there is zero correlation between reduced legal firearms and REDUCED crime or violence)

Not to mention the Australian media is highly influence / controlled by Murdoch, who is historically a gun control fan, buddies with the big NY grabber/gun control sponsor Bloomberg....

But one particularly embarrassing part is what these (I wont bother describing them as it would be auto censored and therefore indecipherable) are concerned with when theyre getting their panties in a bind over these massive arsenals.... its not collections of automatic assault machine pistol shotgun rifle gunses....not even semi-auto wood stock civilian rifles;




#toomanydavidshoebridge

[<<Genesis93>>]

You'll notice the next twat related to the drug riddled unlicensed crim, stolen unregistered prohibited shotgun (shortened) that he SHOT HIMSELF with...... yes. all due to not enough gun control laws, and it was 'our' fault.....

#toomanydavidshoebridge

[adam]

You'll notice the next twat related to the drug riddled unlicensed crim, stolen unregistered prohibited shotgun (shortened) that he SHOT HIMSELF with...... yes. all due to not enough gun control laws, and it was 'our' fault.....

Indeed - and as much as I feel for the mother - I have a problem with the 'he didn't need to die like that'.

What about his potential victims? He was a drug criminal with a loaded firearm. What was he planning on doing with that? Fox shooting?

This blokes death may have prevented some innocent party actually being shot. Even if the police caught him - after his release he'd most likely re-offend. Carrying a loaded firearm wasn't an accident - it was a deliberate decision. His potential victims are the ones that didn't need to die like that..., and because of what's happened they won't (at least not from him). He is a victim of his own actions only - no one else's. His death may have saved another firearm related homicide in the media.

Yet it's amazing how they continually twist it around to be our fault. Don't expect me to simpathise with a criminal where I and others like me are accused of being the problem - and not the criminals actions.

[<<Genesis93>>]

I thought it interesting the mother became an expert on shotgun triggers and knew it was faulty..... maybe it was just light, maybe her messed up son pointed it to his head and pulled the trigger.... sorry, its more newsworthy and advantageous to various parties to report a criminal use/stolen illegal gun.... than to add another figure to the huge list of suicides..

[<<Genesis93>>]

So the FOI response is on this David Shizenhausens website and the response from the police with the data states;

850,636 Registered firearms in possession of licence holders. This is at 16 May 2015... so sorry Davie, it's well past 900,000 now!!!

then it says;

217,725 total number of registered gun owns..... then it says 'licence holders'....
"This figure includes individuals, BUSINESSES, FIREARM DEALERS and CLUB ARMOURERS....."

Thats right, the lying twat is not surprisingly filling the social and conventional media with more fear mongering tish.... the ARSENALS are not individual, non-collectors necessarily, as they include dealers, businesses AND collectors... as above arsenals of flint locks and all!!

[Triang]

... as above arsenals of flint locks and all!!

But those are new technology high power automatic flintlocks aren't they?

[Garth]

Scare mongering crap flick s**t and hope some sticks mentality.if something is worth a fight stand up and be counted .divide and conquer is there agender.we are all licened shooters we have guns .we arnt all crazy we have our kids that shoot and wife and familys its a sport like any other. LEAVE US ALONE AND GO CATCH the illegall gun owners who dont have there weapons licened or reg stop putting all people in same basket were not breaking the law but no story in that i guess they need to scare the public with headlines so sad

[Pennsylvania Yank]

Interesting to see that despite the fact that our Democratic Party seems absolutely enthralled by the idea of instituting an Australian style "Buyback" effort here in the US to get rid of semi-autos, that your elected officials still seem to be wrestling with several "dangerous loopholes" in your firearms laws.

A loophole is just another word for freedom. In Britain, where almost no gun possession is permitted outside of gun clubs, the nanny staters have been recently apoplectic over replica gun loopholes and pellet gun loopholes, which they may have been able to finally close. It's frightening to see other countries and know that this is where the controllists want the US to be as soon as possible.

The last "dangerous loophole" in the minds of these controllists will be the one allowing for lawful firearm possession in the home.