Typical fake gun owner comments 101

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Post by <<Genesis93>> » 31 May 2016, 5:36 pm

silencers are banned because they turn any gun into a silent long range sniper kill death weapon, and only crims 'need' then, cause only crims 'need' a silent weapon gun.

At least thats what the TV tells us
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Post by happyhunter » 31 May 2016, 6:20 pm

I don't get the fuss about silencers, they don't make s**t silent at all..


Nah, they don't. You can still hear the firing pin strike the cartridge rim.
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Post by Title_II » 01 Jun 2016, 12:53 am

bigfellascott wrote:I don't get the fuss about silencers, they don't make s**t silent at all, just reduce the blast slightly is all, I've used them in years gone by, I don't care if I do I don't use one ever again, not that big a deal to me to be honest, I can handle using ear muffs at a range if I have to (not that I go to ranges anymore these days either as they are a joke to me) and I generally don't bother with them for hunting purposes as it's usually only 1 or 2 shots fired with those so no really issues with repeated noise there, smashing up bunny warrens well then I use muffs as I can fire 30 or 40 shots or more at times depending on what the bunnies are doing.

Only time I reckon one would come in handy is shooting around farm houses etc to lesson the annoyance of those who live nearby. :thumbsup:


I've posted videos of my friend's silenced Ruger 10/22 and my silenced M11/9.

The 10/22 is SILENT.

The M11/19 is not silent except the bolt makes the most noise after the first shot.

It's curious, but silencers are one area of firearms technology where there are advances every year.
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Post by Chronos » 01 Jun 2016, 9:49 am

adam wrote:
bigfellascott wrote:I don't get the fuss about silencers...


I'm going to take a stab here... I think the fuss isn't about silencers itself - but about the underlying reason why they are illegal. Which is a misunderstanding and mistrust to LFO's. The reason we can't have silencers is based on the same misinformation that causes other issues for us.

If we accept and are happy about the way silencers are treated, then it just leaves open additional abuse using the same logic.



They are banned (not technically banned just prohibited and available by permit...allegedly) is because some scumbag shot another scumbag with a sawn of .22 with a silencer in the early '70's. for years anybody could buy them by mail order from the back of a magazine and when the arrived they either got through or got picked up by customs. it was common for people to order 2-3 at a time knowing at least 1 would get through. i think they were just $20-$25

Like BFS I have no desire to own one, I have no need either but if i did a lot of shooting around residential areas for pest control i'd apply for one.

The biggest roadblock to them becoming more available (i've heard it said in NSW no permits have been granted for over 12 months) is the misuse and illegal possession of such items. how can we law abiding firearms owners convince the powers that be that we are responsible enough to own them when so many idiots continue to be caught breaking the laws we're trying to get changed. it's like trying to get the blood alcohol limit raised from .05 to .08 when 1500 drivers a year are caught breaking the limit and continue to cause road accidents


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Post by Walt68 » 01 Jun 2016, 5:09 pm

on_one_wheel wrote:Unfortunately I can't find any way of finding out is someone is genuine ADF or a wannabe.

It would be great if it was easy to expose those grubs.




Ask them what is their ECN, if they have no idea or can not quote it without having to think about it, they are full of s**t.

Works for me.
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Post by bigfellascott » 01 Jun 2016, 6:29 pm

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Re: Typical fake gun owner comments 101

Post by GLS_1956 » 06 Jun 2016, 4:17 am

Let me start out by making it clear that while I am an American gun owner and have been since my min-teens, more than 40 years ago. I am not now nor have I ever been a member of any law-enforcement agency or US military service. That said, we too suffer from trolls that claim to be either gun owners, police, or military. And of course their goal is in almost every case to defame the gun owners and or the organizations which they claim association with.

In most cases these trolls make themselves know in short fashion by either using figures or terminology that makes their situation blatantly obvious. Regretfully the majority of people who read or hear these liars are oblivious to the lies.
I've been asked: "How many guns do you need to have?" My answer remains the same: "One more."
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Re: Typical fake gun owner comments 101

Post by tom604 » 06 Jun 2016, 4:01 pm

one of the reasons they were banned/restricted was that a (and correct me if im wrong) Victorian copper,a super or at least a high up, was shot and killed on his front porch with his family inside and they didn't hear anything, so a silencer "must" of been used :roll: organised hit ? i would have one,,,or two :thumbsup:
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Re: Typical fake gun owner comments 101

Post by WayneO » 06 Jun 2016, 9:15 pm

I have used suppressors for many years on game farms, and I have to say that it does go a long way to keeping the game a lot tamer. In hunting season upwards of 60 people may visit a game farm and more than 200 rounds including sighting in, will be fired. On farms that insist on the use of suppressors, you can see a noticeable difference in the skittishness of the game.
As for ex military types; in S.A we have an elite group called the Recce's (Special Forces Regiments - the Reconnaissance Commandos) they have been around for 44 years and in that time less than 1100 men out more than a hundred thousand entrants have qualified as Recce's. Despite this, every second person who ever went to the boarder or into Angola claims to be a Recce.
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