<<Genesis93>> wrote:Whatever, but the real problem is the GAMBLING that is destroying familes across our suburbs, whether its dogs, horses, pokies or anything money is put on...
Supaduke wrote:There is a big difference between natural predation and having a rabbit on a string. Nor do I believe the percentage of bad apples is as small as made out. I have seen (and punted on) many races with strange results and gives rise to questionable ethics when it comes to the outcomes of races. Also the amount of dogs killed when proven to not be winners. The greyhound adoption program is piecemeal at best. This was not a spur of the moment decision. The industry was warned to clean up its act and chose not to. I am sorry for those doing the right thing, but considering how much money is bet on the dish lickers, the industry badly needs a clean up.
Whatever, but the real problem is the GAMBLING that is destroying familes across our suburbs, whether its dogs, horses, pokies or anything money is put on...
bentaz wrote:<<Genesis93>> wrote:Your opinion Supaduke, and I respect it.
However, I'm not in the least bit concerned about live baiting of animals. Not at all.
I am however concerned at the live baiting of humans, those mesmerised by the pokies, or watching the screen in the sportsbar, clutching their last $50 worth of bets as they watch in vain as they lose AGAIN.....
Those people are idiots, they chose to be there, but the rabbit being live bait didn't get a say.
on_one_wheel wrote:I read an interesting article that linked a Senator, a inner citty developor who's interested in the Wentworth Park Greyhound Track and the sudden ban of Greyhound racing..... nothing suss going on here.
juststarting wrote:on_one_wheel wrote:I read an interesting article that linked a Senator, a inner citty developor who's interested in the Wentworth Park Greyhound Track and the sudden ban of Greyhound racing..... nothing suss going on here.
Nah, nothing to see here.
Heard an interview on 774 today too, debating the numbers. I know bs flows both ways, but the guy had interesting points, especially about numbers of dogs killed. On top of that, there are existing laws to deal with animal cruelty - why is this not applied? I thought collective punishment was illegal? This is mental, since there are a lot of people who will be out of jobs, properties, everything. Sounds like there's a legal fight in the works.
bentaz wrote:<<Genesis93>> wrote:Your opinion Supaduke, and I respect it.
However, I'm not in the least bit concerned about live baiting of animals. Not at all.
I am however concerned at the live baiting of humans, those mesmerised by the pokies, or watching the screen in the sportsbar, clutching their last $50 worth of bets as they watch in vain as they lose AGAIN.....
Those people are idiots, they chose to be there, but the rabbit being live bait didn't get a say.
<<Genesis93>> wrote:bentaz wrote:<<Genesis93>> wrote:Your opinion Supaduke, and I respect it.
However, I'm not in the least bit concerned about live baiting of animals. Not at all.
I am however concerned at the live baiting of humans, those mesmerised by the pokies, or watching the screen in the sportsbar, clutching their last $50 worth of bets as they watch in vain as they lose AGAIN.....
Those people are idiots, they chose to be there, but the rabbit being live bait didn't get a say.
Yes, they are idiots... there was another 'victim' on the news today... who 'lost' $300,000 and therefore has to sell the family home before the banks do....yes she's an idiot... and her husband who no doubt worked his whole life to pay for the house... is for some reason still sitting net to her...holding it together.
However....
Our government, the filthy so and sos love the revenue and are as addicted as the morons who sit in front of the machines... Victoria has one of if not the highest density of poker 'Electronic Gaming Machines' IN THE WORLD!??... 30,000 machines in VIC....and theres a website that shows you how much money YOUR local 'community' is losing...
https://www.vcgr.vic.gov.au
Example 2014/2015 punter's losses;
OLD ENGLAND HOTEL, HEIDELBERG, $11,533,093.85,
YARRAVILLE CLUB CRICKET CLUB, MAIDSTONE , $13,606,750.17
GLADSTONE PARK HOTEL, TULLAMARINE, $18,744,701.91
KEYSBOROUGH HOTEL, KEYSBOROUGH, $19,705,513.32
SEAFORD TAVERNER, SEAFORD , $16,346,192.56
EDWARDES LAKE HOTEL, RESERVOIR , $13,585,256.44
BERWICK SPRINGS HOTEL, BERWICK , $14,817,705.70
CARDINIA CLUB , PAKENHAM , $11,218,364.30
KEALBA HOTEL, KEALBA , $17,788,348.56
CARDINIA CLUB, PAKENHAM , $11,218,364.30
These are the highest 'losses' per premises from random regions.... there may be higher individual values, but the forth example above represents a loss, per calendar day of about $54,000!!!
Now add up all the locations across the 30,000 machines...
....and that above concerns me a whole heap more than this nonsense of live baiting.... sorry if you dont agree.
bentaz wrote:http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=NXVtaYCDoLo
And then some days live baiting turns out OK!
<<Genesis93>> wrote:Your opinion Supaduke, and I respect it.
However, I'm not in the least bit concerned about live baiting of animals. Not at all.
<<Genesis93>> wrote:I am however concerned at the live baiting of humans, those mesmerised by the pokies, or watching the screen in the sportsbar, clutching their last $50 worth of bets as they watch in vain as they lose AGAIN.....
tom604 wrote:lots of dogs going to die