Trump day 1

[Boo]

Maybe the result is more a protest vote against the PC left bulls**t plus issues like US banks being given a free run to rob everyone? Anyway, good on the Yanks for not being afraid to try someone different and contraversal and for overcoming the main stream media bias and the celebrity wanker influence.

[Bigjobss]

Maybe the result is more a protest vote against the PC left bulls**t plus issues like US banks being given a free run to rob everyone? Anyway, good on the Yanks for not being afraid to try someone different and contraversal and for overcoming the main stream media bias and the celebrity wanker influence.

Clebrity wanker influence! Exactly!
Why should anybody value what a bunch of people living in fantasy land have to say about anything? Just shut up and dance for us entertainment monkeys.
Their whole existence is based on being able to pretend and lie in the most convincing fashion, not on being intelligent, their well payed advisors/lawyers/agents make the important decisions.
I also revel in the decline in Hollywood due to amateur online entertainment (not porn) and the rise of quality television.

[on_one_wheel]

Given Trump stated in 98 that he he would run as a republican because he could sell their dumb arsed voter base any crock of s**t he wanted (paraphrased); do not be surprised if exactly none of what he campaigned on comes to pass.

Don't believe everything you read in social media.

That statement has been well and truly debunked.

[on_one_wheel]

Let's not forget that America' s 40th president was a famous actor before he became president.

The big win is that he will appoint highly conservative justices in the supreme Court which wil help to uphold the correct "interpretation" of the second amendment and help to keep the extreme left at bay.

[<<Genesis93>>]

Maybe the result is more a protest vote against the PC left bulls**t plus issues like US banks being given a free run to rob everyone? Anyway, good on the Yanks for not being afraid to try someone different and contraversal and for overcoming the main stream media bias and the celebrity wanker influence.

Its a repudiation of the leftist policies, open borders, export of industries and the offensive foreign military policies that have taken them AS WELL as us....to fighting pointless wars at expense of their and our soldiers...

[Itshurting]

Hey shooters,
My first post to this great forum.
Australia has given $75 million to the corrupt Clinton Foundation over the years.Should we ask for it back now?

[Supaduke]

I have had some heated discussions at work the last few days regarding the election. One of the topics was open borders. People would get upset about my stance on border control. I believe all illegal immigrants should be sent home, no questions. I then quantified that statement by pointing out I had zero issue with legal immigration as of course most Australians are no more than 2nd or 3rd generation themselves.

I gave the analogy, imagine you had a neighbour that periodically jumped your fence and stole a bunch of your nectarines. Regardless of their race or religion it would piss you off. The left arguement is "hey man you have tonnes of nectarines, why can't people just take them?"

My response is, if they came and knocked on my door and politely asked for some, I would give them a bucketful. It's not racism to want to control who enters your yard .

Go Donny, hope you're successful.

[brett1868]

If a prospective migrants first act is to break our laws and enter the country illegally, I want no part of them.

[albat]

What i cant understand "asylum seeker" ok how is it they cross numerous countries before arriving on australia's doorstep to claim asylum they often cross countries that have the same religion language and culture to claim saftey from persecution and are safe countries , often risking their lives to do this if you are seeking saftey from persecution surely one of these countries would fit the bill , or do they have other motives!!!

[Bigjobss]

I have had some heated discussions at work the last few days regarding the election. One of the topics was open borders. People would get upset about my stance on border control. I believe all illegal immigrants should be sent home, no questions. I then quantified that statement by pointing out I had zero issue with legal immigration as of course most Australians are no more than 2nd or 3rd generation themselves.

I gave the analogy, imagine you had a neighbour that periodically jumped your fence and stole a bunch of your nectarines. Regardless of their race or religion it would piss you off. The left arguement is "hey man you have tonnes of nectarines, why can't people just take them?"

My response is, if they came and knocked on my door and politely asked for some, I would give them a bucketful. It's not racism to want to control who enters your yard .

Go Donny, hope you're successful.

I agree with and now feel like eating a nectarine

[Supaduke]

Coming into stone fruit season soon. Can't wait to start seeing peaches and nectarines again, love em

[deye243]

What i cant understand "asylum seeker" ok how is it they cross numerous countries before arriving on australia's doorstep to claim asylum they often cross countries that have the same religion language and culture to claim saftey from persecution and are safe countries , often risking their lives to do this if you are seeking saftey from persecution surely one of these countries would fit the bill , or do they have other motives!!!

yes but we have missing link (center link) you know gov hand outs $40 000+ up front a house

and you don't even have to look for a job because you came from such a traumatized place

[happyhunter]

Maybe the result is more a protest vote against the PC left bulls**t plus issues like US banks being given a free run to rob everyone? Anyway, good on the Yanks for not being afraid to try someone different and contraversal and for overcoming the main stream media bias and the celebrity wanker influence.

Its a repudiation of the leftist policies, open borders, export of industries and the offensive foreign military policies that have taken them AS WELL as us....to fighting pointless wars at expense of their and our soldiers...

I think the political elite were using the politics of fear as a means to their own end and it's finally come back and bit them in the arse and too much feminist, gay lesbian LBGTIXYX, rape culture crap rammed down people's throats, the majority never buying it and finally tiring of it.

[brett1868]

What i cant understand "asylum seeker" ok how is it they cross numerous countries before arriving on australia's doorstep to claim asylum they often cross countries that have the same religion language and culture to claim saftey from persecution and are safe countries , often risking their lives to do this if you are seeking saftey from persecution surely one of these countries would fit the bill , or do they have other motives!!!

Excellent question and here's another...Why don't the rich middle eastern countries accept asylum seekers? UAE & Saudi Arabia for instance....

[Eduardo]

Given Trump stated in 98 that he he would run as a republican because he could sell their dumb arsed voter base any crock of s**t he wanted (paraphrased); do not be surprised if exactly none of what he campaigned on comes to pass.

That never happened.

http://www.snopes.com/1998-trump-people-quote/

[Gwion]

Given Trump stated in 98 that he he would run as a republican because he could sell their dumb arsed voter base any crock of s**t he wanted (paraphrased); do not be surprised if exactly none of what he campaigned on comes to pass.

Don't believe everything you read in social media.

That statement has been well and truly debunked.

2 years ago I saw video of him saying it.

The video has since been lifted and the 'debunking' is purely political smoke and mirrors.

[Gwion]

What i cant understand "asylum seeker" ok how is it they cross numerous countries before arriving on australia's doorstep to claim asylum they often cross countries that have the same religion language and culture to claim saftey from persecution and are safe countries , often risking their lives to do this if you are seeking saftey from persecution surely one of these countries would fit the bill , or do they have other motives!!!

Excellent question and here's another...Why don't the rich middle eastern countries accept asylum seekers? UAE & Saudi Arabia for instance....

Because no one in their right mind is fleeing TO the places; rather FROM them!

[Boo]

Given Trump stated in 98 that he he would run as a republican because he could sell their dumb arsed voter base any crock of s**t he wanted (paraphrased); do not be surprised if exactly none of what he campaigned on comes to pass.

Don't believe everything you read in social media.

That statement has been well and truly debunked.

2 years ago I saw video of him saying it.

The video has since been lifted and the 'debunking' is purely political smoke and mirrors.

Not sure what the point is but it's obvious that Trump does not always watch his mouth and we all say things that in retrospect we don't mean. The real point is Trump has been legitimately elected so his actions from now on are what really matter.

[Heckler303]

Why do I imagine Gwion to be the kind of person that would have wanted Britain to stay in the EU?

[<<Genesis93>>]

What i cant understand "asylum seeker" ok how is it they cross numerous countries before arriving on australia's doorstep to claim asylum they often cross countries that have the same religion language and culture to claim saftey from persecution and are safe countries , often risking their lives to do this if you are seeking saftey from persecution surely one of these countries would fit the bill , or do they have other motives!!!

Excellent question and here's another...Why don't the rich middle eastern countries accept asylum seekers? UAE & Saudi Arabia for instance....

Thats easy,
because it's not part of 'the plan', which is to -
(a) destabilise the region and
(b) to transfer 'displaced' populations to western/Europeans nations (use some imagination what this is meant to achieve)..

The 'rich' middle eastern nations want a regime change, not to help the people....thats for the west to be concerned about, Turkey want favour in the area of trade and defence and EU money..... so they 'allow' Syrian refuge but for long enough to arrange their passage to the ultimate destinations in Europe.


Its clear as day what theyre doing, however all we hear is the spin, from the left side of politics, which unfortunately also includes half of our supposedly centrist/right government...

The 'refugees' who are not only Syrian but from many countries not all at war are country shopping - for the greenest pastures and nations with the most lucrative social security programs (for the underprivileged 'asylum seekers')

Most of the Syrians are coming from SAFE REFUGEE CAMPS in Turkey...from safety. Send them back there until their nations are safe, better still set up more camps WITHIN Syria..and protect the safety of the Syrians IN Syria - thats a worthy humanitarian cause.

[albat]

On this very day in history it is important to remember what our troops died for in the world wars and the liberties and freedom it gave us it came at a huge cost to the countries involved people get the governments they deserve you have to earn freedom not freeload on it !!

[dpskipper]

I for one am pretty happy.. hopfully all the itar/export bullsh*t gets binned at the very least!

these a possibility that it will get worse

Yep, any firearms parts out of the U.S will rise exponentially in price so his win is a major loss for Australian shooters. He plans to disassemble the free trade agreements, some of which we benefit from. ITAR seems to be the whipping post for why dealers don't have much stock of U.S sourced items. I've had no issues getting ITAR approvals processed within 5-7 days so I find it difficult to believe ITAR as the root cause behind shortages.

I'll be hitting dealers over the weekend to stock up on hard to get U.S components such as projectiles, CCI Primers amongst other consumables and might even layby a few firearms.

I don't think Trump wants to remove all free trade agreements. More like renegotiate them for a better deal. No doubt prices will go up, but I doubt it will be much.

[happyhunter]

I for one am pretty happy.. hopfully all the itar/export bullsh*t gets binned at the very least!

these a possibility that it will get worse

Yep, any firearms parts out of the U.S will rise exponentially in price so his win is a major loss for Australian shooters. He plans to disassemble the free trade agreements, some of which we benefit from. ITAR seems to be the whipping post for why dealers don't have much stock of U.S sourced items. I've had no issues getting ITAR approvals processed within 5-7 days so I find it difficult to believe ITAR as the root cause behind shortages.

I'll be hitting dealers over the weekend to stock up on hard to get U.S components such as projectiles, CCI Primers amongst other consumables and might even layby a few firearms.

I don't think Trump wants to remove all free trade agreements. More like renegotiate them for a better deal. No doubt prices will go up, but I doubt it will be much.

Hang on. Everybody is driving around in Jeeps and Holden and Ford are shutting down. FTAs always favor the USA.

[Boo]

Yes, why would Trump want to interfere with the US/AU FTA? The balance is in their favour now, any change will more likely than not make US product more available and so cheaper here.

[Baronvonrort]

Yes, why would Trump want to interfere with the US/AU FTA? The balance is in their favour now, any change will more likely than not make US product more available and so cheaper here.

I get the feeling things could get easier for us to trade with the USA, be more likely to change export rules for American companies for products under Trump, we need to point out why do they have a problem exporting certain things our firearms registry allows us to have.

A laugh with this video on leftists reacting to Trumps kids game hunting Triceratops and Sabre Toothed tigers-
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gc4Mi4ocyDw

Leftist females agreeing with Hillary on sharia law for the USA-
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oKosd0xJadE

These are the people who call Trump supporters uneducated bigots.

[on_one_wheel]

Putting an end to gun free zones

[<<Genesis93>>]

I for one am pretty happy.. hopfully all the itar/export bullsh*t gets binned at the very least!

these a possibility that it will get worse

Yep, any firearms parts out of the U.S will rise exponentially in price so his win is a major loss for Australian shooters. He plans to disassemble the free trade agreements, some of which we benefit from. ITAR seems to be the whipping post for why dealers don't have much stock of U.S sourced items. I've had no issues getting ITAR approvals processed within 5-7 days so I find it difficult to believe ITAR as the root cause behind shortages.

I'll be hitting dealers over the weekend to stock up on hard to get U.S components such as projectiles, CCI Primers amongst other consumables and might even layby a few firearms.

I don't think Trump wants to remove all free trade agreements. More like renegotiate them for a better deal. No doubt prices will go up, but I doubt it will be much.

So the US Aus free trade agreement goes something like this;

USA exports to Australia = zero duty... absolutely nothing, free trade TO Aus.....on everything.(thats free trade)
Thats good... theres no duty on fun stuff, guns ammo etc....

AUS exports to USA... duty free on some items... else DUTY on much of the stuff we produce and send over there...eg, beef 4.4c/kg on carcass

Yeah.. not sure why its called a free trade agreement...even if we send firearm related stuff theres a duty over there on much of it.

I guess the yanks are better at negotiating..

Trump 'removing' the FTA would only harm USA.... if of course 'we' retaliating with 'some' duties on American goods coming here.

[darwindingo]

You saying we actually still make stuff here ?

[Oldbloke]

IMHO this discussion is a waste of time. He is a businessman, and now politition.
What he says during the election campain and what he does in power will not be the same.
Wait and see.

[wrenchman]

change has started my son picked up a ar 15 made by ruger they were being stock piled to sale if hillery wone now they are flooding the market for reduced prices.