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Re: Adler ban can be stopped!

Post by Title_II » 17 Mar 2017, 9:40 am

<<Genesis93>> wrote:Bless your socks wrenchie....You know we lov ya...

Oh yeah, the Adler.... I can't see you guy buying more than a small proportion of the collectors in the USA..... in your market its a skinny nutra-sweet decaf.. aka a 'why bother'....


I agree. We have pumps cheaper than any gun you've ever bought and they are high quality for what they are. The Adler would only be purchased as a novelty. I like lever guns but have no interest in a lever shotgun. I use autos, most use pumps, skeet shooters use over/under, turkey hunters use rifle/shotgun combo gun. I've never seen somebody holding a lever shotgun.
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Re: Adler ban can be stopped!

Post by Title_II » 17 Mar 2017, 9:45 am

Title_II wrote:
<<Genesis93>> wrote:Bless your socks wrenchie....You know we lov ya...

Oh yeah, the Adler.... I can't see you guy buying more than a small proportion of the collectors in the USA..... in your market its a skinny nutra-sweet decaf.. aka a 'why bother'....


I agree. We have pumps cheaper than any gun you've ever bought and they are high quality for what they are. The Adler would only be purchased as a novelty. I like lever guns but have no interest in a lever shotgun. I use autos, most use pumps, skeet shooters use over/under, turkey hunters use rifle/shotgun combo gun. I've never seen somebody holding a lever shotgun.


I only have one shotgun. Mossberg 9200 auto with 18" barrel. I leave it in the kitchen for my family (they are shotgun people from Jersey, barf). I won't take it for sporting clays but when my friends bring out a box of clays and a launcher it actually does OK.

EDIT: Oops, I tried to edit and quoted myself.
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Re: Adler ban can be stopped!

Post by wrenchman » 17 Mar 2017, 10:21 am

this was one of the guns at shot show i am not a fan of shot guns like this aint good for much
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Re: Adler ban can be stopped!

Post by duncan61 » 17 Mar 2017, 10:37 am

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Re: Adler ban can be stopped!

Post by Title_II » 17 Mar 2017, 10:43 am

It's kind of obscure as far as These States are concerned, but there is a use for those type of shotguns in The Great Commonwealth of Pennsylvania.

We are not allowed to carry loaded long guns in the car (long story). That applies to barrel over 16" rifle, shotgun over 18", and an overall length. So Short Barreled Rifles (SBRs), Short Barreled Shotguns (SBS), and especially AOWs ($5 transfer) are quite popular here. That looks like it would most likely be an AOW or perhaps even not NFA at all but still qualify to be loaded in the car.

There are "shotguns" with barrels shorter than 18" that do not require NFA transfer because they wee born without a stock, and therefore do not fit the definition of "shotgun," and exceed the minimum size requirement for AOW.

Who came up with all this nonsense? LOL
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Re: Adler ban can be stopped!

Post by <<Genesis93>> » 17 Mar 2017, 10:43 am

duncan61 wrote:Squirrel gun


Apex gun.
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Re: Adler ban can be stopped!

Post by bladeracer » 17 Mar 2017, 11:28 am

Title_II wrote:It's kind of obscure as far as These States are concerned, but there is a use for those type of shotguns in The Great Commonwealth of Pennsylvania.

We are not allowed to carry loaded long guns in the car (long story). That applies to barrel over 16" rifle, shotgun over 18", and an overall length. So Short Barreled Rifles (SBRs), Short Barreled Shotguns (SBS), and especially AOWs ($5 transfer) are quite popular here. That looks like it would most likely be an AOW or perhaps even not NFA at all but still qualify to be loaded in the car.

There are "shotguns" with barrels shorter than 18" that do not require NFA transfer because they wee born without a stock, and therefore do not fit the definition of "shotgun," and exceed the minimum size requirement for AOW.

Who came up with all this nonsense? LOL



I'm glad you posted this Title, I've often wondered why anybody would want the SBR's I see so often on Youtube. Always seemed like a totally pointless wasted effort, but now I see that there may actually be some reason for them :-)
Next, is there any reason at all for the AR/AK "pistols" that seem to be the current fashion?
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Re: Adler ban can be stopped!

Post by Title_II » 17 Mar 2017, 11:55 am

bladeracer wrote:
Title_II wrote:It's kind of obscure as far as These States are concerned, but there is a use for those type of shotguns in The Great Commonwealth of Pennsylvania.

We are not allowed to carry loaded long guns in the car (long story). That applies to barrel over 16" rifle, shotgun over 18", and an overall length. So Short Barreled Rifles (SBRs), Short Barreled Shotguns (SBS), and especially AOWs ($5 transfer) are quite popular here. That looks like it would most likely be an AOW or perhaps even not NFA at all but still qualify to be loaded in the car.

There are "shotguns" with barrels shorter than 18" that do not require NFA transfer because they wee born without a stock, and therefore do not fit the definition of "shotgun," and exceed the minimum size requirement for AOW.

Who came up with all this nonsense? LOL



I'm glad you posted this Title, I've often wondered why anybody would want the SBR's I see so often on Youtube. Always seemed like a totally pointless wasted effort, but now I see that there may actually be some reason for them :-)
Next, is there any reason at all for the AR/AK "pistols" that seem to be the current fashion?


They could serve the same purpose, but would do so poorly. They are a novelty. Just toys. Come to think of it, maybe that means the Adler will catch on :) The reason is people are cheap and don't want to spend the $200 to build or transfer an SBR. Or they think it is a neat toy.

SBRs also work well inside buildings or cars, don't become unwieldy when silencers are added, and people think they are cool. I have an 11.5" heavy barrel upper for my M16 but it is really just a sacrificial beater for doing BETA dumps. The thing is loud as heck without a silencer. Lots of cool sparks, though :D
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Post by Title_II » 17 Mar 2017, 12:12 pm

Oh, and SBRs shoot through body armor. SMGs usually don't. And when they do, they are "meh." One of the reasons SMGs have fallen out of favor. They are still fun, though :)
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