Thousands of gun owners' personal details released (VIC)

[doc]

Fair point. You're right... apart from information that has been acted on when criminals have had access to information I have no other information about them specifically targeting us.

I would imagine that criminals take the easiest road, which for the most part I suspect would be the black market, illegal imports, etc.

This would change when they have information directly available to them that lists certain firearms that are of interest to them (aka dealer's books etc). Like you - I'm not too worried about the average breakin - but if my details were released to unknowns my concerns would up significantly. (One of the reasons I don't publish my real name and address on this forum for instance )

[Gwion]

While this is an appalling breech of private information; isn't it just lists of Game Licence Holders?

As such, many of those affected may not even own a firearm......?????

Just trying to understand it but it seems like it really is not a shopping list of who owns what and where........

[bladeracer]

While this is an appalling breech of private information; isn't it just lists of Game Licence Holders?

As such, many of those affected may not even own a firearm......?????

Just trying to understand it but it seems like it really is not a shopping list of who owns what and where........

It lists our licence "category" apparently, so yes, it would indicate who has firearms of Cat A/B, C or D. And I expect it probably also lists H class if a shooter also owns handguns.
No, I do not believe it lists our firearms or calibers, although a deer licence would indicate at least one .243 or bigger.

[<<Genesis93>>]

The game licence could be Stalking / hounds / birds / junior. .... etc
It would be safe to assume most, even hound cat would own firearms at the licensees address....

[happyhunter]

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[bladeracer]

Any firearm has value in the criminal world. If you believe .22 and break shotguns have no value I can understand that belief but that is because you may be isolated from the reality of what happens to a stolen firearm.

It's true that the majority of stolen guns are rarely found to be used in a crime. There are reasons for that, the main being most crimes go unsolved and the guns are mostly used to stand over other criminals so the crime is never reported.

And you believe that the value of our .22's and shotties is so great as to make firearms owners specific targets for these criminals?

[bladeracer]

It's true that the majority of stolen guns are rarely found to be used in a crime. There are reasons for that, the main being most crimes go unsolved and the guns are mostly used to stand over other criminals so the crime is never reported.

They do recover guns from crimes, but rarely are they legally-owned or stolen from legal owners.

[happyhunter]

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[bladeracer]

Absolutely. You have to be living under a rock to think otherwise.

But it is just your belief, right?
You have no actual evidence to support it.
Maybe I'm just living under a different rock than you?

[Gwion]

I live under a rock....

I like it under my rock.

[happyhunter]

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[bladeracer]

You made a ridiculous statement about criminals not targeting gun owners. Your O.C.D is really showing.

And you made an equally ridiculous statement, but at least I provided some evidence for my view.
I have the opposite of OCD if anything

[Gwion]

I have the opposite of OCD if anything

I think the opposite of OCD is CBF.....

[bladeracer]

I have the opposite of OCD if anything

I think the opposite of OCD is CBF.....

Yep, that's me to a tee