Should we be Alarmed?

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Re: Should we be Alarmed?

Post by Gun-nut » 13 Jun 2017, 11:03 pm

And under the labour government these very same people were allowed to enter our borders.
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Re: Should we be Alarmed?

Post by Gwion » 14 Jun 2017, 9:13 am

colinbentley wrote:All these so called moderate Muslims are strangely silent after terrorist attacks. To me they are all the same. Islam or Muslim make s no difference.


I think you will find that they are not silent and that the main stream media choose not to give them a voice and that the govt also ignores them as it is not convenient for their propagandist agenda and narrative. There are Muslim groups out there ectively campaigning against radicalism. Man Monis' mosque contacted authorities with concerns about him; they were ignored. Etc, etc..

This article shows two things to me:
1- the threat is not Islam itself in its current modern interpretation. As practiced by the vast majority of Muslims but is instead the active campaign by the Saudi Monarchy. Of all the countries I the Miele East that have been invaded and occupied in the last 15 years, perhaps Saudi should have been the sole focus instead!
2- the U.S. Will not engage in a soft bAttle for hearts and minds as described I the article because there is no profit in it. They don't want to see radical Islam stopped, they want it to continue just enough to keep the populace scared enough to support the continued military action. This brings huge profit from sale of weapons to the U.S. And profit from increased price of oil to the Saudis. It is mutually beneficial to both parties to continue this charade of fighting radical Islam and the real victims are moderate modern Muslims who are unquestionably suffering the most with the impact of war, terrorism and extremist sects violently imposing their beliefs.
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Re: Should we be Alarmed?

Post by Gwion » 14 Jun 2017, 9:23 am

WatchyShooter wrote:
They think we can’t have a discussion about Radical Islamic Extremism without getting confused and attacking Islam as a entire religion.

It’s something we need to work towards as a entire country otherwise we won’t be able to have a discussion about these issues before it’s too late.


"They" don't want the discussion to be about radical Islam as a fringe movement within greater Islam, "they" want us all scared enough to support continued military action and so the narrative to delivered so as make it difficult for the "masses" to differentiate between radical Islam and it's true victims: moderate, everyday, majority Muslims.
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Re: Should we be Alarmed?

Post by pete1 » 14 Jun 2017, 2:20 pm

Gun-nut wrote:And under the labour government these very same people were allowed to enter our borders.


Under a liberal government to. The howard government let Man Haron Monis into the country and ignored reports from Iran government that Man Haron Monis had links to terrorism. Liberal Labour all the same both stab us in the back.
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Re: Should we be Alarmed?

Post by bullzeye » 14 Jun 2017, 2:30 pm

Saudi Arabia gets away with a lot of bad stuff, simply because they have so much $$ and particularly buy lots of American weapons..
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Re: Should we be Alarmed?

Post by gazza » 14 Jun 2017, 4:49 pm

The Saudis have an insane drifting method if your looking for a laugh on youtube.
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Re: Should we be Alarmed?

Post by MalleeFarmer » 14 Jun 2017, 8:19 pm

gazza wrote:The Saudis have an insane drifting method if your looking for a laugh on youtube.



Not on a pushy by any chance?? :lol: :lol: :lol:
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