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Politicians posing with guns on social media

Post by bladeracer » 02 Sep 2017, 8:37 pm

I saw some photo's of a senator with some ADF Cadets and noticed she was holding an F88 rifle. My first thought was it's good to see a politician not displaying outright hatred of firearms.

https://www.facebook.com/senatormckenzie/photos/a.588751027861042.1073741827.161756303893852/1463594300376706/?type=3&theater

Then I realised it's in Victoria. Even if it is only a replica firearm, it would be an offence for an unlicenced person to have possession of it except while being supervised at a range. A "training gun" or "blue gun" is not considered a firearm in Victoria as long as you don't modify it. If you decide to paint it to look more realistic it becomes a "replica firearm" and requires licencing and storage as a real firearm of that category - the F88 would require a Collector's Licence, or a Theatrical Armourer's Licence.

Perhaps cadets are classed as "military" personnel and exempt from licencing requirements? (When I was an Army Cadet in the early eighties I was doing drill with deactivated L1A1 rifles (at school!), competing on the small-bore team (at school!), and got to shoot the M16 under supervision at an Army camp. Although I did actually have a firearm licence I was likely the only one there that did, so perhaps we actually were exempt as Cadets.)
But I can't think of any way this senator could legally access this firearm.
I don't think the photos were at an approved range, and I'm guessing that none of the people with her is an RO either.

I'm not having a go at her, it was just something that I noticed and thought if some unlicenced person, perhaps a parent of one of the cadets for example, had posted such a photo on social media, how much trouble it might cause them. My understanding is that Senator Bridget McKenzie is a pro-gun active shooter and thus is licenced to have access to certain classes of firearms, but if this is a real F88 she probably does not have a Cat E licence, or if not real, a Theatrical Armourer's Licence to access replica firearms?

Anybody have any thoughts?
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Post by Daddybang » 02 Sep 2017, 9:14 pm

Not sure of the rules but if it was to a.d the sheila on the left would lose her toes!. :drinks:
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Post by 1886 » 02 Sep 2017, 9:39 pm

All good

She is covered by Jandamurra's conceal and carry :D
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Post by AusTac » 02 Sep 2017, 9:49 pm

Technically if shes on defence property she's on ACT soil, interesting that someone gave her a gat for their propaganda though

Didn't catch it at first but thats at the WTSS, chances are it's not a live gat long story short they're modified to run off a simulation system
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Post by cflake » 02 Sep 2017, 9:51 pm

I believe ADF have an exemption - none of them require any sort of firearms license at all.

I agree with your point, although they would probably argue that the senator is somehow exempt as well.
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Post by Lifesaride » 02 Sep 2017, 9:53 pm

Daddybang wrote:Not sure of the rules but if it was to a.d the sheila on the left would lose her toes!. :drinks:

I was going to mention myself, I wouldn't want to be standing beside her
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Post by pete1 » 02 Sep 2017, 10:11 pm

Shes often stuck up for us, listened to her give a speech about how there are some politicians who want to take all guns away and how we need to stick together good to see her on our side.
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Post by Noisydad » 03 Sep 2017, 6:04 am

Pretty certain she's not only a license holder but a clay target shooter.
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Post by straightshooter » 03 Sep 2017, 7:16 am

For the legal eagle commenter's, If it was on commonwealth land then state laws might not necessarily apply.
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Post by bigfellascott » 03 Sep 2017, 7:36 am

Noisydad wrote:Pretty certain she's not only a license holder but a clay target shooter.


Spot on - she's a shooter. :thumbsup:
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Post by RoginaJack » 03 Sep 2017, 10:17 am

What a load of rubbish! I'd be proud to stand beside Senator Bridget Mckenzie and I'd be prepared to bet that the good Senator would shoots the socks off a lot of them.
Senator McKenzie is a licenced shooter and a great supporter and spokesperson for all LAFO.
She also organises and promotes the Parliamentarians Friends of Shooting Group and has invited a group of Journalists to a clay target shooting range for an introduction to the sport.
Hell, would I be proud to stand beside her, You bet!
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Post by Oldbloke » 03 Sep 2017, 10:46 am

bentaz wrote:
Noisydad wrote:Pretty certain she's not only a license holder but a clay target shooter.

Both true and thats not a real rifle, its a video game training set up.


Sounds right.

Not sure what the point is here. Senator and licenced shooter posing with some cadets. All good to me.
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Post by wrenchman » 03 Sep 2017, 11:28 am

looks like there is a couple young ladys in that group to that is a good thing for the future
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Post by bigfellascott » 03 Sep 2017, 11:58 am

RoginaJack wrote:What a load of rubbish! I'd be proud to stand beside Senator Bridget Mckenzie and I'd be prepared to bet that the good Senator would shoots the socks off a lot of them.
Senator McKenzie is a licenced shooter and a great supporter and spokesperson for all LAFO.
She also organises and promotes the Parliamentarians Friends of Shooting Group and has invited a group of Journalists to a clay target shooting range for an introduction to the sport.
Hell, would I be proud to stand beside her, You bet!
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Post by bladeracer » 03 Sep 2017, 2:02 pm

RoginaJack wrote:What a load of rubbish! I'd be proud to stand beside Senator Bridget Mckenzie and I'd be prepared to bet that the good Senator would shoots the socks off a lot of them.
Senator McKenzie is a licenced shooter and a great supporter and spokesperson for all LAFO.
She also organises and promotes the Parliamentarians Friends of Shooting Group and has invited a group of Journalists to a clay target shooting range for an introduction to the sport.
Hell, would I be proud to stand beside her, You bet!
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Which part of my post was "a load of rubbish"?
I mentioned that she is supportive of shooters, and I'm on her side.
My comments are along the line of if anti-gun people actually knew the laws and how much trouble they might cause.
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Post by marksman » 03 Sep 2017, 3:19 pm

I think its a great photo, should be more of them, and do see what you are getting at bladeracer
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Post by Oldbloke » 03 Sep 2017, 8:56 pm

Bladeracer is correct could be viewed in a negative way. But as Ben said looks like its under the supervision of an RO.. If it is the real deal would have been checked by 2 or more ROs.
Need more polititions actually having a look at what we do rather than just listening to antis.
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Post by AusTac » 03 Sep 2017, 9:43 pm

Oldbloke wrote:Need more polititions actually having a look at what we do rather than just listening to antis.



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Post by Daddybang » 04 Sep 2017, 7:04 am

AusTac wrote:
Oldbloke wrote:Need more polititions actually having a look at what we do rather than just listening to antis.



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Yep spot on! :thumbsup:
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Post by bullzeye » 12 Sep 2017, 10:09 am

Tony Abbott in Afghanistan.

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Post by AusTac » 12 Sep 2017, 10:14 am

I guess the polies have to play with what they fund sometimes, especially in the sandpit, i wonder if he got to unleash a 40mm
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Post by Daddybang » 12 Sep 2017, 2:02 pm

bullzeye wrote:Tony Abbott in Afghanistan.

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Nice to see . :drinks: now if we can just get senator sarah flungsomedung over there. ... :twisted: :thumbsup:
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