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So under Obama they did f@#kall and under trump "seem" to be trying :unknown: :drinks:
This hard living ain't as easy as it used to be!!!
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Post by marksman » 20 Sep 2018, 10:03 am

I agree :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
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Post by Ziad » 20 Sep 2018, 2:10 pm

All this talk about anneal probing will make ppl start to wonder
Blame it on the phone auto correct
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Post by Homer » 12 Feb 2019, 8:19 am

G'Day Fella's,

Further to this, here is what Ole George Sawarse has be up to, behind the scenes;
http://www.dutchanarchy.com/unmasked-th ... tezz2OXZ9Y

Here FYI, is a link, this time about GloBULL Warming etc;
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=s ... pp=desktop

D'ouble D'oh!!
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Post by Patriot » 12 Feb 2019, 12:21 pm

Homer wrote:G'Day Fella's,

Further to this, here is what Ole George Sawarse has be up to, behind the scenes;
http://www.dutchanarchy.com/unmasked-th ... tezz2OXZ9Y

D'ouble D'oh!!
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Yep,scary stuff. Soros reminds me of Darth Sideous from Star Wars plotting from behind the scenes. We’re lucky down here on Terra Australis, surrounded by water and along way to travel in a fvcked out old boat. Still,we should be vigilant and defend our culture and way of life.
Advice,don’t vote for the majors at the federal election.
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Post by Homer » 22 Feb 2019, 8:19 am

G'Day Fella's,

Further to this and FYI.

When you have finished reading this, you may better understand what President Trump and the rest of us, are up against.
Also, why most of the mass media and so many US and other politicians etc, around the planet, hate President Trump so much.
Trump is one of just a few Good Guy's, standing up against a massive number of treasonous criminals.

D'oh!
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Thought you might appreciate this as it also applies to us here in Australia.....

We know Dick Lamm as Governor of Colorado. In that context his thoughts are particularly poignant. Last week there was an immigration overpopulation conference in Washington D.C., filled to capacity by many of America's finest minds and leaders. A brilliant college professor [and farmer] by the name of Victor Davis Hanson talked about his latest book, Mexifornia, explaining how immigration - both legal and illegal - was destroying the entire state of California. He said it would march across the country until it destroyed all vestiges of The American Dream.

Moments later, former Colorado Governor Richard D. Lamm stood up and gave a stunning speech on how to destroy America.

The audience sat spellbound as he described eight methods for the destruction of the United States.

He said, "If you believe that America is too smug, too self-satisfied, too rich, then let's destroy America. It is not that hard to do. No nation in history has survived the ravages of time Arnold Toynbee observed that all great civilizations rise and fall and that 'An autopsy of history would show that all great nations commit suicide.'

"Here is how they do it," Lamm said:

"First, to destroy America, turn America into a bilingual or multi-lingual and bi-cultural country. History shows that no nation can survive the tension, conflict, and antagonism of two or more competing languages and cultures It is a blessing for an individual to be bilingual; however, it is a curse for a society to be bilingual. The historical scholar, Seymour Lipset, put it this way: 'The histories of bilingual and bi-cultural societies that do not assimilate are histories of turmoil, tension, and tragedy.' Canada, Belgium, Malaysia, and Lebanon all face crises of national existence in which minorities press for autonomy, if not independence. Pakistan and Cyprus have divided. Nigeria suppressed an ethnic rebellion France faces difficulties with Basques, Bretons, Corsicans and Muslims.'

Lamm went on:

"Second, to destroy America, invent 'multiculturalism' and encourage immigrants to maintain their culture. Make it an article of belief that all cultures are equal; that there are no cultural differences. Make it an article of faith that the Black and Hispanic dropout rates are due solely to prejudice and discrimination by the majority. Every other explanation is out of bounds.

"Third, we could make the United States an 'Hispanic Quebec' without much effort. The key is to celebrate diversity rather than unity. As Benjamin Schwarz said in the Atlantic Monthly recently: 'The apparent success of our own multi-ethnic and multicultural experiment might have been achieved not by tolerance but by hegemony. Without the dominance that once dictated ethnocentricity and what it meant to be an American, we are left with only tolerance and pluralism to hold us together.'

Lamm said, "I would encourage all immigrants to keep their own language and culture. I would replace the melting pot metaphor with the salad bowl metaphor. It is important to ensure that we have various cultural subgroups living in America enforcing their differences rather than as Americans, emphasizing their similarities.

"Fourth, I would make our fastest growing demographic group the least educated. I would add a second underclass, un-assimilated, under-educated, and antagonistic to our population. I would have this second underclass have a 50% dropout rate from high school.

"My fifth point for destroying America would be to get big foundations and business to give these efforts lots of money. I would invest in ethnic identity, and I would establish the cult of 'Victimology.' I would get all minorities to think that their lack of success was the fault of the majority. I would start a grievance industry blaming all minority failure on the majority.

"My sixth plan for America's downfall would include dual citizenship, and promote divided loyalties. I would celebrate diversity over unity. I would stress differences rather than similarities. Diverse people worldwide are mostly engaged in hating each other - that is, when they are not killing each other. A diverse, peaceful, or stable society is against most historical precept. People undervalue the unity it takes to keep a nation together. Look at the ancient Greeks. The Greeks believed that they belonged to the same race; they possessed a common language and literature; and they worshipped the same gods. All Greece took part in the Olympic games. A common enemy, Persia, threatened their liberty. Yet all these bonds were not strong enough to overcome two factors: local patriotism and geographical conditions that nurtured political divisions. Greece fell. 'E. Pluribus Unum' -- From many, one. In that historical reality, if we put the emphasis on the 'pluribus' instead of the 'Unum,' we will 'Balkanize' America as surely as Kosovo.

"Next to last, I would place all subjects off limits. Make it taboo to talk about anything against the cult of 'diversity.' I would find a word similar to 'heretic' in the 16th century - that stopped discussion and paralyzed thinking. Words like 'racist' or 'xenophobe' halt discussion and debate. Having made America a bilingual/bi-cultural country, having established multi-culturalism, having the large foundations fund the doctrine of 'Victimology,' I would next make it impossible to enforce our immigration laws. I would develop a mantra: That because immigration has been good for America , it must always be good. I would make every individual immigrant symmetric and ignore the cumulative impact of millions of them."

In the last minute of his speech, Governor Lamm wiped his brow. Profound silence followed. Finally he said, "Last, I would censor Victor Davis Hanson's book Mexifornia. His book is dangerous. It exposes the plan to destroy America. Unless you feel America deserves to be destroyed, don't read that book."

There was no applause. A chilling fear quietly rose like an ominous cloud above every attendee at the conference. Every American in that room knew that everything Lamm enumerated was proceeding methodically, quietly, darkly, yet pervasively across the United States today. Discussion is being suppressed. Over 100 languages are ripping the foundation of our educational system and national cohesiveness. Even barbaric cultures that practice female genital mutilation are growing as we celebrate "diversity." American jobs are vanishing into the Third World as corporations create a Third World in America - take note of California and other states To date, ten million illegal aliens and growing fast. It is reminiscent of George Orwell's book, 1984. In that story, three slogans are engraved in the Ministry of Truth building: "War is peace," "Freedom is slavery," and "Ignorance is strength."

Governor Lamm walked back to his seat. It dawned on everyone at the conference that our nation and the future of this great democracy is deeply in trouble and worsening fast. If we don't get this immigration monster stopped within three years, it will rage like a California wildfire and destroy everything in its path, especially The American Dream.
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Post by bigrich » 22 Feb 2019, 10:58 am

Yeah well, if all that is correct, it sure does explain a lot, and accurately explains the social engineering that has been happening in the last couple of decades. If your a patriot or nationalist these days, or have a opinion that goes against mainstream opinion , you can just about garuntee you’ll be labeled a racist, xenophobic or a tin foil hat wearing conspiracy nut. Whatever happened to the freedom to voice a opinion ?
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Post by Gaznazdiak » 22 Feb 2019, 12:04 pm

Ever read the responses to people whose opinion differs from that of the poster, rich?
Sheeple, leftards, stooges, cvnts to name a few.

Seems that the people who disagree with those who cloak themselves in self appointed terms like "patriots" and "nationalists" are also branded for having an opinion.

Those who want to throw rocks at people who think differently from them need to harden up if they can't take their own medicine mate.
If they aren't emotionally mature enough to accept that others may think differently to them and may respond in kind to their own epithets, that is a problem of their own making.


Just to clarify it once more, Agenda 21 is nothing more than a list of NON BINDING SUGGESTIONS as to how developing 3rd World nations can progress to become less dependent on aid from countries like ours.

I have asked this poster no less than 9 times to explain where I have this wrong, his only response to this is silence or insult.
Pots and kettles rich.
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Post by bigrich » 22 Feb 2019, 3:34 pm

Gaznazdiak wrote:Ever read the responses to people whose opinion differs from that of the poster, rich?
Sheeple, leftards, stooges, cvnts to name a few.

Seems that the people who disagree with those who cloak themselves in self appointed terms like "patriots" and "nationalists" are also branded for having an opinion.

Those who want to throw rocks at people who think differently from them need to harden up if they can't take their own medicine mate.
If they aren't emotionally mature enough to accept that others may think differently to them and may respond in kind to their own epithets, that is a problem of their own making.


Just to clarify it once more, Agenda 21 is nothing more than a list of NON BINDING SUGGESTIONS as to how developing 3rd World nations can progress to become less dependent on aid from countries like ours.

I have asked this poster no less than 9 times to explain where I have this wrong, his only response to this is silence or insult.
Pots and kettles rich.


well mate, i read homers last post , thought gee, IF there's any truth in this it would explain alot of what's going on in the world today. and i posted MY thoughts on this. i also commented on MY observation of knee jerk reactions to patriotic or nationalistic points of view ( in the media and on online forums ? ), from MY PERSPECTIVE. i'm not judging or ragging on anyone else's right to a opinion. not yours or homers. i have on numerous times advocated the right of a individual to have and express their own opinion on this forum . if homer ignores your request to explain, well that's between you and homer. i often (right or wrong), express myself in the moment. please don't involve me in any online arguing or lumping me in with others just because my opinion at the time might be the same . i'm old school blue collar aussie, i'm concerned about politics and social change in this country .in my part of this country it's changed alot ! i try to be respectful and considerate of others , but i'll bloody well have my say regardless of whether anyone agrees or not. UP AUSTRALIA !

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Post by Gaznazdiak » 22 Feb 2019, 3:55 pm

Please point out where I attacked your right to an opinion, rich.

I merely pointed out the fact that those who claim to be "patriots and nationalists" aren't the only ones who are attacked for their opinions.
Are you saying they're never guilty of the same thing?

Your hostile response illustrates my point.
You seem to have totally ignored the theme of the comment, ie, that both sides of this stupid left vs right bullsh!t attack each other, and taken it as a personal attack on you.

Read your own words mate, better yet I'll quote them for you:
"If your a patriot or nationalist these days, or have a opinion that goes against mainstream opinion , you can just about garuntee you’ll be labeled a racist, xenophobic or a tin foil hat wearing conspiracy nut. Whatever happened to the freedom to voice a opinion ?"

I'll ask you your own question, whatever happened to the freedom to voice an opinion?

Or does that freedom only extend to those who agree with you?

As I said, pots and kettles.
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Post by bigrich » 22 Feb 2019, 4:28 pm

Gaznazdiak wrote:Please point out where I attacked your right to an opinion, rich.

I merely pointed out the fact that those who claim to be "patriots and nationalists" aren't the only ones who are attacked for their opinions.
Are you saying they're never guilty of the same thing?

Your hostile response illustrates my point.
You seem to have totally ignored the theme of the comment, ie, that both sides of this stupid left vs right bullsh!t attack each other, and taken it as a personal attack on you.

Read your own words mate, better yet I'll quote them for you:
"If your a patriot or nationalist these days, or have a opinion that goes against mainstream opinion , you can just about garuntee you’ll be labeled a racist, xenophobic or a tin foil hat wearing conspiracy nut. Whatever happened to the freedom to voice a opinion ?"

I'll ask you your own question, whatever happened to the freedom to voice an opinion?

Or does that freedom only extend to those who agree with you?

As I said, pots and kettles.


not hostile gaz , just being crystal clear that my opinions are my own, and if you read my post again, you'll see i'm fully supportive of the rights to freedom of expression. i don't think i could have worded that fact any clearer . i got the impression that your post had undertones of critisizing homer and any who may hold similar points of view, if even momentarily . the problem with posting online is without voice tone or facial expression to clarify the context in which statements are made .if i've taken you the wrong way , i unreservedly appoligize , i hope you will extend me the same benefeit . when you referenced the "cloak themselves in self appointed terms like patriots and nationalists" response, to me that sounded like you were sterotyping me in with homer as i used those terms in my post . hence the need to clarify my personal veiws and opinions . the last line of your last post " or does that only extend to those who agree with you ?" mate , i actually find that remark insulting . you and homer have had ongoing remarks and battles on this forum , i'm not buying into it . if you want to critisize homer, do it direct to him . my opinions are my own, i respect others opinions , and i reserve my right to voice my opinion . to cherry pick comments from my post and throw them back at me , while ignoring the bulk off what i posted in support of expression . yup right


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Post by Patriot » 22 Feb 2019, 5:04 pm

Right and wrong is all opinion

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Post by bigrich » 22 Feb 2019, 5:10 pm

Patriot wrote:Right and wrong is all opinion

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Post by Gaznazdiak » 22 Feb 2019, 6:32 pm

Rich, honestly mate I was not attacking you, and as you have graciously done so, I also apologize if my final question came over as insulting, but look at the history of the non responses and insult that has been the only answer to genuine questions by anyone on these issues.

The totally unproductive left vs right argument has been polarized seemingly beyond repair by the extremes.

It seems to have been reduced to the point where ludicrous claims by both sides are all there is.

It gets to the point where those of us who sit in the middle feel we are surrounded by lunacy.

You are dead right about the limitations of the textual medium.

My attempts to get homer to explain his postings may have got off on the wrong foot because, frankly, they are usually so outrageously wrong or come from such widely and easily discredited sources that I genuinely thought he was taking the piss and I responded with the same tone.

Despite my apology to him in my second comment on the issue, ever since then I have been treated with nothing but contempt for simply asking why he thinks that they are true.

Yes, it is every person's right to believe whatever gets them through the day, and if you choose to believe in any of the above, that is your absolute right.
But when discussing such extreme ideas, it's only natural that people will question how someone capable of crossing the road without getting skittled could give them any credence and attempt to find out.

I would like nothing better than a logic based, adult debate on the issue, but at least 9 attempts to get one have produced, as I said, nothing but ridicule and insult or dumb silence.
With this in mind, can you blame me for having a jaundiced view of the proponents of such extreme theories?

Seriously mate, a multinational program that promotes sustainable development for poor countries being touted as some sort of sinister plot by the UN to enslave us is a perfect example of the total absence of logic I'm trying to understand.

Then there is the notion pushed by those on the far right that they are the only patriots or the only ones who wish to see their own nation prosper, and that anyone with the temerity to have a different view are some sort of communist traitors with the country's downfall as their main aim.

Look at "nationalist patriots" like that Cottrell knuckle dragger and the nongs around him, he seriously suggests we put pictures of Adolf Hitler in school class rooms FFS.
If this is what he says in public, Christ knows what sort of extremism they espouse in the privacy of their "little boy's club"?
Thousands of Aussie diggers gave their lives fighting that fvcking vegan lunatic and Cottrell and his little band of followers revere him and then have the gall to call themselves patriots?

The offer to homer is still open, I would gladly debate this in a logical, adult manner, but based on prior experience, I expect to to see monkeys flying out of my arse before he has the intellectual courage to do so.

No insult was inteded to you, and I hope we can discuss this and other things in the future without the accidental acrimony.
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Post by Patriot » 22 Feb 2019, 7:44 pm

Cottrell is no Patriot
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Post by bigrich » 22 Feb 2019, 7:52 pm

bigrich wrote:Yeah well, if all that is correct, it sure does explain a lot, and accurately explains the social engineering that has been happening in the last couple of decades. If your a patriot or nationalist these days, or have a opinion that goes against mainstream opinion , you can just about garuntee you’ll be labeled a racist, xenophobic or a tin foil hat wearing conspiracy nut. Whatever happened to the freedom to voice a opinion ?


This is my original, off the cuff post . I don’t understand how my expression of this opinion led to a big drawn out analysis of all that has come after it . I don’t take everything on here to seriously. I’ve had my say , I’ve done my reloading for tomorrow, it’s beer’o’clock. I love chatting with people on this forum, but I’ve had enough for one day. Cheers
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Post by Stix » 22 Feb 2019, 8:02 pm

bigrich wrote:This is my original, off the cuff post . I don’t understand how my expression of this opinion led to a big drawn out analysis of all that has come after it . I don’t take everything on here to seriously. I’ve had my say , I’ve done my reloading for tomorrow, it’s beer’o’clock. I love chatting with people on this forum, but I’ve had enough for one day. Cheers


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Sorry gaz, I couldn’t resist
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