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Post by bigrich » 19 Sep 2018, 3:56 pm

grandadbushy wrote:Ziad i'm not up with all this abbreviations what does ''Rotfl'' stand for ?
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Post by bigrich » 19 Sep 2018, 3:59 pm

as i posted on the socialism discussion/argument weeks ago, large scale wars of the past destroy resources and infrastruture . chinas gunna buy us out, and our pollies are negotiating their cut :unknown: :thumbsdown:
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Post by grandadbushy » 19 Sep 2018, 3:59 pm

AHHH FM I feel like a fekken idget now or _____Fmiflain :? ;) :) :D :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :drinks:
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Post by bigrich » 19 Sep 2018, 4:01 pm

grandadbushy wrote:Enjoy yourself Ziad Buy heaps of guns , shoot plenty , party hard whilst you still can :silent: ;) :) :) :D :D :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :drinks:


i like grandads philosophy , :thumbsup: :drinks:
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Post by grandadbushy » 19 Sep 2018, 4:03 pm

Yes bigrich you could be on the mark with china mate
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Post by bigrich » 19 Sep 2018, 4:17 pm

what frustrates me GDB is the number of so called "educated" people who exist these days , who get paid large amounts of money doing some management job ( 10 million bonus for a bank exec ? ) while i risk serious injury in the trades and working with machinery. common sense doesn't exist anymore , and a large proportion of the younger generation seem to be self-entitled dumb arses who think the world owes them cause their parents have done too good a job of providing and loving their kids. this has bin the lucky country for quite a few generations now, and a lot of people just don't get it. my grandfather had a rough childhood, grew up during the great depression, then served in WW2 , being part of the force that retook the island of rabaul. the whole country needs a kick up the arse i reckon :twisted: :lol: :thumbsup:
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Post by Daddybang » 19 Sep 2018, 5:17 pm

Gaznazdiak wrote:
Daddybang wrote:China was using opium as a medicine since the seventh.century which is about a thousand years before the opium wars of the 17th century. :drinks:


That's correct, as a medicine.

The British, and to a lesser degree, the Americans flooded China with opium and marketed it as a recreational substance to target their tight social structures.
When the epidemic of addiction started to reach into the upper-middle classes the Chinese started to fight back.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opium_Wars


So no one was having a recreational slurp from the poppy juice jug before the British started to supply it in over a thousand years of use. :unknown: :drinks:

I'd say they supplied it but "introduced" :unknown: :drinks: :P
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Post by Ziad » 19 Sep 2018, 5:17 pm

Sorry, gotta be one of my favorites... rolling on the floor laughing.
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Post by Gaznazdiak » 19 Sep 2018, 6:16 pm

I didn't mean to assert that the British introduced either opium or its recreational use, so I should have worded my response a little clearer, because it was ambiguous enough to seem that I was, my apologies.
They did, however, use it as a covert weapon against the Chinese, that is historical fact. Starting in 1839 they carried out a deliberate campaign to addict as many Chinese as they could.

Now they are returning the favour.
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Post by bigrich » 19 Sep 2018, 6:36 pm

a lot of the heroin in the western world was/is grown in afganistan by bin laden's buddies. guess what sort of crap that's bin financing
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Post by grandadbushy » 19 Sep 2018, 7:02 pm

Geez bigrich ya grandad certainly saw the wrong end of a good up bringing he would have definitely had respect for life mate :thumbsup:
And yeah ya right about most kids to day but you can also put a bit of blame for that to the gov taking the rights of adults away to
punish kids by smacking them and if there was parents out there who went overboard with the punishment then punish them not all
parents
I also was brought up hash in a fractured family we had nothing, I took my lunch to school in a painted weet-bix box that's when I had lunch
I painted the box so the other kids wouldn't poke s____ t at me and no boots either for all my school life still don't wear them when I don't have to
And yes its getting to be a world of kids thinking we people owe them also a lot of adults think that to so when people go to get help when they really
need it they are treated like parasites on the system :thumbsdown: :silent:
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Post by Ziad » 19 Sep 2018, 7:31 pm

bigrich wrote:a lot of the heroin in the western world was/is grown in afganistan by bin laden's buddies. guess what sort of crap that's bin financing


I am sorry but that is not correct at all. Poppy was grown in Afghanistan since time long ago. The Taliban (Osamas buddies you can call em) banned the cultivation and burned most if not all the poppy fields. And when they are kicked out by the Americans, funnily enough cultivation of poppy starts again.

Lot of it (drugs) is also grown in south America, and plenty of it under the auspices of the CIA.

Personally gaz, all I read about and look at research from reputable medical journals, it does irreparable damage to the brain and the structures in it. Even if you stop those structures do not rebuild. I suppose I see it as a good way to destroy a generation. I suppose, its like smoking.
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Post by bigrich » 19 Sep 2018, 7:44 pm

Ziad wrote:
bigrich wrote:a lot of the heroin in the western world was/is grown in afganistan by bin laden's buddies. guess what sort of crap that's bin financing


I am sorry but that is not correct at all. Poppy was grown in Afghanistan since time long ago. The Taliban (Osamas buddies you can call em) banned the cultivation and burned most if not all the poppy fields.

i stand corrected. was typing from memory and confused things with the soviet invasion era. either way governments/terrorists have been using drugs as a weapon for a long time. someone else posted on here about china's involvement in the supply of chemicals for that "ice" crap. i've seen that vile rubbish destroy lives :thumbsdown:
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Post by Gaznazdiak » 19 Sep 2018, 8:32 pm

It depends on the literature you read Ziad.

Having spent time in a brain injury unit, and learning to live with changed brain function, I have studied and learned a great deal about the brain, it's growth and functions.

Yes, the brain is stil growing its wiring until we are 25, which is why we shouldn't introduce intoxicating drugs including alcohol before then.

As far as any drug including alcohol, if abused before age 25, yes there will be changes in how the brain develops but after that age cannabis is far safer than alcohol. There is not a single recorded cas of someone dying as a direct medical result of ingesting cannabis as opposed to over 6,000 deaths in Australia in 2015-16 directly related to alcohol.

For a minute fraction of the population who have a pre-existing genetic predisposition toward psychosis or schizophrenia using any amount can cause a full onset of symptoms, that has been proven.

But let's put things into perspective, a far greater, and in fact growing, percentage of people have a potentially life threatening allergy to another plant, the peanut. For this significant portion of the population, one peanut or taste of peanut butter can be fatal without rapid medical intervention. Why are they not banned under the logic used for cannabis?

It's been known for it's medicinal uses for millennia and it's non toxic.

Like to hazard a guess at who is the biggest supporter of the fight against medical cannabis? Big pharmaceutical.

When reading on any subject, particularly medical, it's vital to a proper understanding to look into who wrote what and where their research funding originated.

All medical opinion that denied the link between tobacco and cancer was funded by big tobacco.

The system that allowed that is still in control, look at the number of Australians living with all the symptoms of Lyme disease yet being told by the medical "establishment" that it doesn't exist here, despite what all their pathology shows.
Why? Because two doctors who did the research that came up with the conclusion that it didn't exist are now at the top of the medical establishment hierarchy.

Believe me, if I didn't have driver's and shooter's licenses to protect, I would be using cannabis instead of the the Fentanyl they have me on now, and I'd be far healthier than I am now and I wouldn't be at risk of being one of the 100+ people it kills every year.
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Post by bigrich » 19 Sep 2018, 8:51 pm

good on ya DB , i knew i didn't imagine drug funding of the taliban :thumbsup:
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Post by Ziad » 20 Sep 2018, 8:50 am

Hmm I dunno who to trust... as trump says fake news anyone

This is in 2001 when they came around
https://www.nytimes.com/2001/05/20/worl ... s-say.html

Anyway, after they have been kicked out, don't see us army going and destroying the said poppy fields. So who do you blame now is the BIG question
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Post by bigrich » 20 Sep 2018, 9:12 am

Ziad wrote:Hmm I dunno who to trust... as trump says fake news anyone

This is in 2001 when they came around
https://www.nytimes.com/2001/05/20/worl ... s-say.html

Anyway, after they have been kicked out, don't see us army going and destroying the said poppy fields. So who do you blame now is the BIG question


The space aliens ziad, blame them ! Especially those “Klingon’s” from Uranus. :lol: think about it ..... :lol:
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