bladeracer wrote:Gaznazdiak wrote:All I meant was that with people able to sell unregistered, untraceable guns to unidentified strangers the problem will never be solvable. Yes, that probably will need a law change to prevent that, but sometimes a change in the law can be a positive.
CNN admitted in the video that it was illegal to be sold those firearms without the seller demanding ID. That's yet another law that is clearly not being enforced, so why assume another law might be?
I think "no ID required" only applies if both parties reside in the same state, but without requiring ID how do you prove that...
Gwion wrote:bentaz wrote:[ The problem in america is they are all f***ed in the head. Canadians, kiwis and a host of other relevant nations don't just lose there s**t and shoot everyone.
Succinct.
I'm sure as whole the people of the US are genuinely good people but their system is so fundamentally flawed that it produces a large number of complete nut jobs with extremely violent ideations.
marksman wrote:wannaroo said in his last post that firearms have to be marked with manufacturer and serial number in the US
so really these guys in the vid Gaz, selling the guns without are crooks who deserve the full force of the law, they are not law abiding citizens
who is responsible for enforcing the law mate who has dropped the ball, but who gets the blame and has to pay
how many storeys of this nature do you read about and the FBI or local authority's new about the perp and did not act
bladeracer wrote:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nROWwJfdueY
Skip to 21:50 to see how the Police and 23:30 Council officials explain that if they'd known he had access to firearms they wouldn't have been treating him this way.
It's not a conspiracy, our government, and all governments, want a disarmed public they can kick around as they see fit.
Gaznazdiak wrote:What happened in Russia, over 100 years ago, and Germany 80 years ago are historical fact, that's true.
But seriously, when was the last time the Australian gov attacked and massacred a mass of Australian citizens?
When was the last time the American gov slaughtered a mass of their citizens?
Yes governments, ours included, have killed a lot of people, even right now, but all the mass killing by US and Aust govs in the last 100 years have been in wars overseas, not directed at their own poulation.
This business of"we need to be armed to defend ourselves from Malcolm Turnbull" is paranoid nonsense and feeds directly into the anti-gun agenda and gets every farmer who needs to control ferals and sporting shooter branded as violent crazies.
Gaznazdiak wrote:What I do feel is important, though, is that we avoid voicing things that the lace-panties, anti-guns-at-all-costs soft-c*cks will use to paint us as dangerous loons.
They do that as it is, they don't need our help.
It sh*ts the hell out of me that through no fault of our own we have to tip-toe to avoid being branded by these cunning stunts, but it is what it is.
Gaznazdiak wrote:Don't get me wrong, I love my guns and the fact that I am allowed to own and use them, but the self defence argument in America seems to my simple mind to be somewhat circular and self-defeating.
"The only way to stop a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun".
True enough, but also raises the question, to me at least, if there weren't quite so many guns, so easily and anonymously available to anyone fresh out of the asylum, would there be such a desperate need for every "good guy" to be constantly armed and alert for a crazed attacker?
As the video below clearly demonstrates, making ever tighter and more restrictive gun laws will never work in America as the lack of licencing and registration makes a nonsense of draconian laws persecuting law abiding people. That horse hasn't just bolted, it's retired to a nice paddock and died of old age.
The CNN report below shows just how easy it is to get unregistered pistols and assault style rifles through the so called gun show loophole with absolutely no checks or waiting, the buyers and sellers didn't even exchange first names.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A51Gr0zpX_c
Gaznazdiak wrote:The CNN report below shows just how easy it is to get unregistered pistols and assault style rifles through the so called gun show loophole with absolutely no checks or waiting, the buyers and sellers didn't even exchange first names.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A51Gr0zpX_c
Title_II wrote:If you carry a fun in Australia you will go to jail.
southeast varmiter wrote:This is where the fail is with your logic.
It’s not about guns. It’s about the right to liberty and means to secure it.
Bad guy with a gun could be the government.
Bigjobss wrote:The media should not be reporting on that scumbugs "popularity" with the ladies, it does nothing to deter copycats and further glorifies the behaviour in minds of other sickos. I understand freedom of the press, 1st Ammendment etc but these journalists have no morals.
Bigjobss wrote:The media should not be reporting on that scumbugs "popularity" with the ladies, it does nothing to deter copycats and further glorifies the behaviour in minds of other sickos. I understand freedom of the press, 1st Ammendment etc but these journalists have no morals.
Gaznazdiak wrote:Bigjobss wrote:The media should not be reporting on that scumbugs "popularity" with the ladies, it does nothing to deter copycats and further glorifies the behaviour in minds of other sickos. I understand freedom of the press, 1st Ammendment etc but these journalists have no morals.
If they had morals they wouldn't be true journos.
A journalist with any sense of decency would be like an honest used car salesman or a chook with teeth.
Anyone who could ask a grieving relative "so how did you feel" in relation to the murder of a loved one is a "true" journalist.
Like politicians, they are a necessary evil, but I detest them both just the same.