More infighting :-(

[sungazer]

That statement " SSAA NSW is recognized as the only organization equipped to credibly represent the shooting sports and LAFO" just shows the level of self centernessed that they have. There are other shooting organizations that have been around for a lot longer that represent other aspects of the sport also at an international level.

[RoginaJack]

Great to see Brett, ...

Robert whines about how many ranges has the NSW SSAA built; well Robert how many ranges have you pushed for Gov. grants or funding.

Hey Sungazer, Care to name the other organizations that have been around longer than the SSAA.

[sungazer]

Sure all the States had Rifle Associations Queens/King prize shoots were being held see below for some history lifted from another website better than I could write.

In 1860 the National Rifle Association of New South Wales was formed to encourage general rifle proficiency in the community and give permanency to the Volunteer Corps. The Associations first home was the Paddington Rifle Range where there were local competitions organized for a quarter of a century. In 1890, due to the opening of Centennial Park and safety concerns over the boundaries of the range, shooting ceased. A replacement range was established at Randwick, near the present day Maroubra Junction.

The first long range shooting match was held at Wimbledon in 1860 and other Commonwealth countries followed suit soon after.

Teams competed in the National Rifle Association matches in England at Wimbledon for the first time in 1886 and at Bisley in 1902. In 1876, Australia competed for the Centennial trophy in the first world long range championships at the Creedmoor Range in the USA, using muzzle loaders at 800, 900 and 1000 yards. The Palma match, as it is now known, is believed to be the oldest international shooting match in the world.

Fullbore first began in the mid 1800s and the first recorded Annual Prize Meeting was held by Sydney Rifle Club, NSW, on the 1st January 1845.

From Wiki The Sporting Shooters' Association of Australia (SSAA) was established in 1948[

[RoginaJack]

I was a member of the National Rifle Association of Australia (NRAA) and shot at the Maclean and Grafton ranges in Northern NSW but I believe that these have long closed. The NRAA only shoots "full bore" - .303 and now I presume 7.62. So what's your point?

Actually the next Commonwealth Games to be held in Birmingham, England in 2022 proposes no shooting sports be included.

AND some of the comments re the SSAA are well, I wouldn't say "childish" as that's just an insult to children!

[sungazer]

The NRAA is the governing body for all the states Fullbore Rifle Associations they shoot F class, Service match and some other competitions. You asked what has been around longer than the SSAA these bodys have been around longer and they represent a significant number of shooters. So the SSAA comment about them being the only organization is very self centered. There are also many other organizations that represent shooters the smallbore, Deer hunters there are heaps when you start looking around.

[Gwion]

All shooting organisations in Australia need to start working together rather than conducting inter-factional pissing competitions. The infighting with in each faction is actually sort of bewildering.

[sungazer]

Absolutely agree Gwion there are so many different shooting organizations all it does is weaken each one and put the cost of running the organization up. If they were able to amalgamate a few there would be huge savings due to economy of scale. Then there is the benefit of political push they would have if they acted like unions and directed members which way to vote. Then the pollies might take notice.

[marksman]

All shooting organisations in Australia need to start working together rather than conducting inter-factional pissing competitions. The infighting with in each faction is actually sort of bewildering.

great idea,
and it does not take an Einstein to work it out
which is where all this tit for tat started from,
the ssaa not showing support for the SFF
the infighting has been going on for a long time
this is just one thing in a myriad of swipes from both
they are both as guilty as each other for this behaviour

do not get sucked in by this ssaa poor me bullchit

[bigfellascott]

I foresee a letter coming from the SSAA Legal attack dog soon for the owners of the forum about this thread.

[sungazer]

I dont think that the forum administrators are responsible for the opinions of the members. There has be no real defamatory remarks made that would warrant legal action against any individual. We still have a modicum of free speech left.

[bigfellascott]

I dont think that the forum administrators are responsible for the opinions of the members. There has be no real defamatory remarks made that would warrant legal action against any individual. We still have a modicum of free speech left.

You can think that if you want too but history will probably prove you wrong (SSAA don't like any bad comments about them at all) so wouldn't be surprised if they get a call or email or letter, I could be wrong but history says otherwise.

[sungazer]

I guess if that is the case it just shows what a petty organization it is. They should be looking and spending their time and effort on more important things.

[Daddybang]

I dont think that the forum administrators are responsible for the opinions of the members. There has be no real defamatory remarks made that would warrant legal action against any individual. We still have a modicum of free speech left.

You can think that if you want too but history will probably prove you wrong (SSAA don't like any bad comments about them at all) so wouldn't be surprised if they get a call or email or letter, I could be wrong but history says otherwise.

They'd lose at least one member if this happened(ssaa that is)

[bigrich]

All shooting organisations in Australia need to start working together rather than conducting inter-factional pissing competitions. The infighting with in each faction is actually sort of bewildering.

+1

[bigrich]

I dont think that the forum administrators are responsible for the opinions of the members. There has be no real defamatory remarks made that would warrant legal action against any individual. We still have a modicum of free speech left.

You can think that if you want too but history will probably prove you wrong (SSAA don't like any bad comments about them at all) so wouldn't be surprised if they get a call or email or letter, I could be wrong but history says otherwise.

They'd lose at least one member if this happened(ssaa that is)

make that 2

[Gwion]

Scott. Much worse has previously been said about SSAA on this site...

[brett1868]

Brett likes shooting, Brett supports those that like Brett, like shooting guns...Be like Brett

[Gwion]

Yep. Working together is tthe only way.

[Gamerancher]

Yes, the old "What have they ever done for me?" should be, "What can I do to help?".
I do my best to encourage new shooters, to get them their licence and get them on the range or out in the field shooting. Although as some of you may have noticed, I have a bias towards silhouette shooting and tend to push folks towards that. ( guilty your Honour )
I applaud Brett in his undertakings and challenge the naysayers to get a bit more pro-active in doing the same.

[marksman]

you know it's really presumptuous to think the naysayers have never volunteered for the ssaa
or given there effort, time, money to the shooter/hunter sport

it sounds really overconfident and smug
like saying nobody has a right to have a bad opinion of the ssaa and cannot voice it or they are just haters who nobody should pay attention to
I'm sure the ssaa would like nobody to criticise them, in fact we know they would, just like they delete the bad comments off there web page and face ache

the truth of it is the ssaa have burnt a heap of good people along the way and they have never supported the SFF, in fact the opposite

but gwion is dead right we as shooters/hunters should stick together because divided we fall

[bladeracer]

I do my best to encourage new shooters, to get them their licence and get them on the range or out in the field shooting. Although as some of you may have noticed, I have a bias towards silhouette shooting and tend to push folks towards that.

Really? I hadn't noticed

[BRNO_Bigot]

All shooting organisations in Australia need to start working together rather than conducting inter-factional pissing competitions. The infighting with in each faction is actually sort of bewildering.

I don't often agree with you, but in this I absolutely do.

[Gwion]

That's ok, mate. I'm sure you're not alone on that!

[Angel]

All shooting organisations in Australia need to start working together rather than conducting inter-factional pissing competitions. The infighting with in each faction is actually sort of bewildering.

Couldn't agree more.