$10k for an Adler, selling mine for 7...

[juststarting]

Good laugh...
http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/nsw/police-advise-stricter-restriction-on-adler-shotgun-against-troy-grants-wishes/news-story/1f03d46c95e3ce9b52794fe37a7e5e4a

[juststarting]

For those who hit a paywall, just Google the title and click the link - should let you in from Google search results.

[on_one_wheel]

I'll save the rest of you the trouble ... don't give the trashy media outlet the satisfaction of mutible "clicks"

Heres the story.

Police advise stricter restriction on Adler shotgun against Troy Grant’s wishes

EXCLUSIVE, The Daily Telegraph
November 27, 2016 12:57pm
Subscriber only

CONFIDENTIAL NSW police advice to the Baird Government has urged cabinet to embrace a D classification for the banned Adler shotgun in defiance of Police Minister Troy Grant.

The Sunday Telegraph can reveal that police have also seized the first illegally diverted Adler shotgun seized in NSW in a political embarrassment for the government.

NSW is yet to reach a position on reclassifying the Adler shotgun despite a national consensus to increase restrictions.

The Adler is currently classed in the lowest Category A level of firearm if it has a five cartridge magazine capacity and is currently banned from importation if it has a higher cartridge capacity.

The Sunday Telegraph can reveal for the first time that NSW Police have provided formal advice urging a D classification which the Police Minister Troy Grant continues to ignore in his public advocacy for a lower reclassification.

Ricky Muir, former Legendary Senator, Future Australian Prime Minister.

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Former Senator Ricky Muir shooting the Adler A-110.
NSW police declined to detail the content of the advice but would confirm it had been lodged with the Baird Government.

“Our understanding is that at this stage the NSW Cabinet has not made a decision on the reclassification of the Adler A5 and A7,’’ a spokeswoman said.

“NSW Police have provided advice which supports the reclassification but the final decision rests with the NSW Government.”

NSW’s failure to act on a higher classification comes despite official advice from an expert working group which has advocated a Category D classification for Adler firearms with a seven-cartridge magazine capacity.

It’s understood that Mr Grant’s position torpedoed the move, with NSW Police Commissioner Andrew Scipione telling the working group that NSW had not reached a cabinet position.

The 12-gauge Adler A-110 lever-action shotgun was recovered last Sunday at a house on Ryan Lane, Broken Hill, along with a Winchester rifle, which had also been illegally shortened.

The recovery occurred on the eve of a politically sensitive debate in federal Parliament to remove an import ban on Adler shotguns with a magazine capacity of seven cartridges.

Sporting Shooters Association CEO Jack Wegman

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Sporting Shooters Association CEO Jack Wegman with an Adler five-shot lever-action shotgun. Picture: Tony Gough
The Adler shotgun had a five-cartridge magazine capacity, which is legal but remains of concern to gun control lobby groups who say they can be modified to hold up to 11 shotgun cartridges.

The motion to lift the ban in federal Parliament ultimately failed.

Two years after the Martin Place siege that sparked the review of the National Firearms Agreement, the Turnbull Government and states across Australia still can’t reach agreement on reclassifying the Adler because NSW is yet to finalise a cabinet position.

Privately, the states and the Commonwealth universally blame New South Wales for the delay, because Police Minister Troy Grant refused to agree to a D classification for the gun with the higher capacity.

In the lead up to the Orange by-election, the Baird Government refused to finalise a cabinet position on the Adler. The seat was won by the Shooters’ Party’s Philip Donato by just 50 votes.


While most firearms are considered attractive for black market sale, police said Adlers in general would be particularly sought after and attract a higher price, most likely around $10,000.

“They’re a fun gun, and crooks want a bit of glamour,” a law enforcement official said.

Last year, the Abbott Government introduced a temporary ban on all imports of lever-action shotguns with a magazine capacity of more than five rounds until the states agreed to tougher restrictions on the weapon.

Police Minister Troy Grant

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Police Minister Troy Grant has said his personal preference for a seven shot version of the gun would be for a B licence. Picture: Richard Dobson
While the Baird Government’s refusal to finalise a cabinet position means that ban stays in place, it also means that the Adler 5-shot which was seized in Broken Hill remains available on an A class licence.

A majority of states want to reclassify it to a B licence and the more powerful 7-catridge version to a highly restrictive D licence.

Police Minister Troy Grant said that cabinet would consider the matter “in due course”.

“The NSW Government continues to support the Commonwealth’s ban on the importation of lever-action Adler A110 shotguns of more than five rounds,’’ he said.

“No national consensus was reached on the firearm’s reclassification at the meeting of Police and Justice Ministers in Melbourne on Friday 21 October.’’

But state and federal officials at the meeting have confirmed New South Wales is now the only barrier to that consensus, with a majority of states backing a D classification for the 7-shot Adler at the meeting.

Despite NSW Premier Mike Baird’s public comments that cabinet had not reached a position, Mr Grant told the meeting his personal preference was a much lower B licence for the firearm and that NSW would not support the D licence.

Andrew Lindsay Bearman, 44, was arrested at the house by Barrier Local Area Command detectives and charged over the Adler, an assault, a property damage offence, and a stalking offence.

He did not apply for bail when he appeared in Broken Hill Local Court on Monday, the same day as an import ban on Adler shotguns with a seven-cartridge capacity was being debated in federal Parliament.

The classifications were decided following the 1996 Port Arthur Massacre.

[on_one_wheel]

Biggest load of dribble I've read in a while.

Thanks juststarting

[juststarting]

This is one of those times where I would expect SSAA to monitor news sources and immediately kick into gear, especially the $10,000 comment and respond with an article of their own to the editor, also fact check, etc. Yay SSAA.

[Cryptic]

What the f*** did I just read????

[juststarting]

What the f*** did I just read????

That was my reaction.

[sbd3927]

More powerful seven cartridge version. Must inject more powder into the cartridges #6 & #7

Equally lacking in their mathematics... they'd better ban gun slings... or someone could carry two 5 shot adlers at the same time!!! Would solve the 20" or 28" decision, and the fact it's a single barrel gun and you need to decide what choke to use beforehand.

I was going to get one, but there don't seem to be 28" synthetics anywhere. October.. November, now they are saying January.

Just want a CHEAP shotgun for my farm that I don't care about scratching. Also the times I've wanted a shotgun in hand, I'd like to have had more than two shots available, along with not having to juggle a pocket full of shells.

[Mr.Seacucumber]

Ah yes and they just had to add in that little tid bit about Porth Arthur and the Martin Place siege, man it must be tiring living in so much fear for so much of the time. I don't know why I bother with SSAA they might as well be a government organstion for how they act.

[agentzero]

The stupid is strong.

[sakoBC]

The 7 shot version is "more powerful" than the 5 shot version. Because a 7 seat car is more powerful than a 5 seat car.
It takes a special kind of stupid to keep up with these clowns.

After 30 years on the planet my 7 shot 30/30 suddenly becomes a powerful Cat D killing machine. The feral pigs will be impressed.

[happyhunter]

While most firearms are considered attractive for black market sale, police said Adlers in general would be particularly sought after and attract a higher price, most likely around $10,000.

What a crock of rubbish. Just pull a number out of the propaganda hat.

[juststarting]

Seriously though, willing to sell mine... Political statement made, no further use - $7k and it's yours ONO.

[Baronvonrort]

Seriously though, willing to sell mine... Political statement made, no further use - $7k and it's yours ONO.

Apart from trying to profit from it why are you considering selling it, upgrading to a triple barrel Akkar or Chiappa?

[juststarting]

Just have no use for it, money to go into a different gun

[Baronvonrort]

What are you looking at for next gun?

I would prefer this Akkar over the Adler.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=naPRdFhITFA

[juststarting]

Probably something centrefire, have a shotty already. Or! Side by side, yeah, definitely s/s because it feels like a need a s/s

[nightforcenxs]

Probably something centrefire, have a shotty already. Or! Side by side, yeah, definitely s/s because it feels like a need a s/s

.300 winny or the old side by side or as a old bloke i know calls them the snake eyes haha

[Baronvonrort]

That's settled then, another centrefire and a s/s