WatchyShooter wrote:The spin we need on this is easy and true, police focus too much time and money into treating ALL firearms owners like criminals that the ones who need help and shouldn't have access to firearms slip through, this is the result of an understaffed and complicated and over all a failure of current firearms acts in place in each state.
There's no way they can say there doing there job effectively when this happens , and the story of illegal firearms is a whole other thing in itself
Gwion wrote:WatchyShooter wrote:The spin we need on this is easy and true, police focus too much time and money into treating ALL firearms owners like criminals that the ones who need help and shouldn't have access to firearms slip through, this is the result of an understaffed and complicated and over all a failure of current firearms acts in place in each state.
There's no way they can say there doing there job effectively when this happens , and the story of illegal firearms is a whole other thing in itself
While it may be true that the vetting system is not perfect, i find it a little unfair in this instance to blame either police or vetting system or firearms. We have no real info about the person or the incident. Why someone would choose to go to the effort of heading to the range to top themselves when they could easily do it in their own home is completely beyond me.
This is less about a better vetting system and more about the importance of putting more time & money into mental health in general. Suicide is rife in Australia and especially in younger to middle aged men. It is largely ignored on all levels of politics. If it was more commonly acceptable for people to reach out for help than trying to 'tough it out' on their own, episodes such as this would be far less common.
bigfellascott wrote:Gwion wrote:WatchyShooter wrote:The spin we need on this is easy and true, police focus too much time and money into treating ALL firearms owners like criminals that the ones who need help and shouldn't have access to firearms slip through, this is the result of an understaffed and complicated and over all a failure of current firearms acts in place in each state.
There's no way they can say there doing there job effectively when this happens , and the story of illegal firearms is a whole other thing in itself
While it may be true that the vetting system is not perfect, i find it a little unfair in this instance to blame either police or vetting system or firearms. We have no real info about the person or the incident. Why someone would choose to go to the effort of heading to the range to top themselves when they could easily do it in their own home is completely beyond me.
This is less about a better vetting system and more about the importance of putting more time & money into mental health in general. Suicide is rife in Australia and especially in younger to middle aged men. It is largely ignored on all levels of politics. If it was more commonly acceptable for people to reach out for help than trying to 'tough it out' on their own, episodes such as this would be far less common.
Probably didn't have his own firearm so went to the range to hire one perhaps Either way not a nice thing to do to those poor people at the range who have to deal with the aftermath of his/her decision.
Gamerancher wrote:Is it reported anywhere that it was firearm related? Could have just had a heart attack?
Gamerancher wrote:Hey Archie, just askin', we are talking about the media here. You know their motto is "Don't let the facts get in the way of a story."