FlyingStick wrote:Hi All,
Just a quick one. In summary, I've had a few feed issues with my 2 month old 223 Howa 1500 (internal 5 round mag). The first couple rounds that are stacked on the right hand side of the mag are flicking up at the rear and jamming between the bolt and chamber. The dealer has swapped the internal mag out but the problem still exists (in starting to think it has something to do with the lips of the action and the round is bouncing out too early).
I am now being told that I am not cycling fast enough as it is a double stacked internal mag system, so I need to slam them in (and consequently have every animal in the area aware of my presence).
In short - am I being bs'd?
pomemax wrote:I ended up installing a detachable mag.243 fixed
Gwion wrote:You are being fed a line. The internal mag itself will not make any difference as the feed assembly is part of the action. I don't recall ever having these issues with mine but I do recall rounds jamming on each other while loading the mag and had to pay close attention to the process. I ended up installing a detachable mag.
Try sending an email direct to importers or manufacturers. Tolerances may be out if rounds are popping out.
pete1 wrote:So does yours have a up rite plate that slots in the magazine or is it like the one in the image?
Mine has up rite plate, but older howa and know if its not in corect it wont work.
pomemax wrote:Like image had to look in safe
sakoBC wrote:It may be worth checking that all rounds are sitting as far back in the mag well as possible.
One of my Howa 243s that I have had for ten years gave me to two jams in succession on a recent hunt. Never had a problem before.
On both occasions I got the first shot off and the follow up shot that came with a quick bolt cycle ended up with two cartridges trying to head into the chamber.
On the first occasion I was too focused on clearing the jam as a few more pigs were on offer. After the second jam I stopped to have a look at what was happening. It appeared that the round under the round that was being cycled had edged forward in the mag enough to angle up and interfere with the round being cycled.
I emptied the internal mag and reloaded making sure that all rounds were uniformly pushed right to the back of the mag well. Haven’t had a problem since.
If the bolt is slightly forward when loading, or if loading with cold numb fingers you may not have a uniform stack with all rounds pushed back against the rear of the mag well.
Definitely no need to slam feed a Howa.
FlyingStick wrote:Originally - I was also having the double feed issue also. Torquing up the bottom metal (as they were extremely lose) fixed this, however left me with the current issue.
I have experimented with the positioning of the rounds while loading. Regardless of where it is placed, same problem.