Dunxy wrote:I realize my OP is a big vague, ive actually already purchased a pcp rifle,just waiting for first 28 day pta to pick it up later in week along with my lithgow la101.
The semi auto's are not renowned for power or accuracy but ive only seen cheapos you get for a few hundred and had written them of as the junk they are!i didnt know about these steyr semis even though i have seen plenty of their more target orientated models,just looked them up is this it? http://potfire.com.au/new-steyr-rifles/ ... -auto.html. Lot of coin! Looks nice and from specs its not weak at all but id drop that coin on one of their field target (more like bench) models over a semi myself.
They are all cat A (as everything should be!)in vic if not all of au but i think WA was trying to move them to C or even D which is seriously retarded.
The .177 bolt action ive purchased will push supersonic with light pellets so dont confuse it with a 500fps break barrel from yesteryear.They take deer with .25's and pigs with .22 PCP rifles in USA.The .25's have great flat trajectory with energy about the same as a .22 rimfire up to 50m but they are hard near on impossible to find in stock here in Aus, always .177 and .22 models only and i haven't even tried to source any slugs over .22 yet. Im looking at larger caliber (50 is on the cards, 220grains@800fps) PCP for larger game down the track.The .177 is for feral birds,rats and paper as they have super flat trajectory they are the caliber of choice for these tasks.Ideal for plinking with the reactive field targets as well(which i enjoy,best $40 ever!)the .22's abuse the targets a bit too much!
Gamerancher wrote:Metallic silhouette has dedicated air rifle matches with scaled down targets from 20 to 45 yards. ( Yes, it is in yards. ) There is also a field target discipline that holds matches.
in2anity wrote:
Some of the higher-end semi PCPs are phenomenally accurate, much more accurate than your average Joe shooter can consistently realise. The target versions can comfortably rub shoulders with 22lr annies. If you watch some of Ted's Holdovers videos (https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCNqIq4 ... JhFJca2J-g) you can see what is achievable in PCP land. But yes, they can be very pricey, but in my books, buy once, cry once.
Strikey wrote:Not sure what PCP air rifle you have bought but if its an FX,Hermanns can install a regulator if not Altaros make regulators to fit most air rifles. Recently purchased a BSA 177 that has an Altaros reg installed and tuned to sub 12fpe and it is amazingly accurate out to 50yds, as far as we have tested so far, also have a 25cal FX regulated and not uncommon to shoot sub MOA groups at 100yds with it. A regulator will give your air rifle consistent shot to shot velocity without the usual rise and fall of an unregulated air rifle, they are well worth the money and time to install. Don't get carried away with velocity, air rifles are accurate when velocities are kept under 900-930fps, yes the dealers who know nothing about them will tell you about 1000-1200fps air rifles which is absolute bulls**t, you won't hit the side of a barn with the super light pellets they use to get those speeds, there is no velocity without accuracy. I have 2 scuba tanks for filling my airguns but I have been looking at the Yong Heng compressor and its on my wish list, seem to be a good thing for the money
Dunxy wrote:Rifles, not the drug!
Dunxy wrote:Been busy so haven't been on.
This just popped up in my youtube feed.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7NdnItyJs-U
Dunxy wrote:Been busy so haven't been on.
This just popped up in my youtube feed.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7NdnItyJs-U
Picked up my gamo this week, nice rifle and am still getting used to it, got a decent 10 shot group @ 30yards which is one, all be it large, id say 4-5 pellets.Took it to the range yesterday and got it on paper @ the 50 line but it was a waste of time as accuracy was non existent.At 30 yards i can hit the kill zone in my field target every time as long as wind is not a factor. Hand pumping is actually better than i thought it would be but it is hard on my left wrist which id say is more due to falling of motorcycles when i was young and retarded.Still see a compressor in my future.Capacity from one full charge is a good 50 shots.
Strikey wrote:
Your Gamo is the same as the BSA Buccaneer, obviously a different stock but barrel and action are the same, what pellets did you try? Haven't run the BSA over the chrony yet but I believe it is running around 780-800fps with H&N FTT's which puts it at around 12fpe, it is a tackholer out 45yds. Did Tom Gaylord mention any problems with shooting lead pellets, over 1200fps you will get lead stripping resulting in a fouled barrel??
Gamerancher wrote:Hey Strikey, Truey has one of the Steyr's and couldn't believe how accurate it was. Wouldn't stop going on and on about what a tack driver it was, you know how he is. Anyway, some time down the track it's accuracy turns to sh!t, he can't work out what's gone wrong. Someone mentions that perhaps the barrel is fouled, so he sets about cleaning it. Reckons he dragged enough lead out to make a bag full of sinkers.
Clean barrel = accuracy back. He's happy again, but, now we have to listen to the "lead in the Steyr" story over and over again.
Strikey wrote:Most if not all the pellets you mentioned I would consider good for melting down to make sinkers, they probably cost the same as a quality pellet such as the H&N's or JSB's.The FTT's are 8•64grn ( I'm having a cuppa, couldn't be bothered to go have a look and check,lol ), headsize is 4•50, JSB Exacts are slightly lighter I think at 8•44grns but their headsize is 4•52 and my BSA doesn't like them, both these brands make 10•6ish grn pellets also which will bring the velocity down and slightly lower the noise. Contact ACME Firearms for H&N pellets or Potters Target Firearms for JSB pellets
Gamerancher wrote:Had Noggin visit here yesterday till after midnight. He works for a Family in town driving trucks. I got him a start there last year for harvest and he stayed on.
He came out to have a few shots out of my Creedmore, he's thinking of building one.
Dunxy wrote:Strikey wrote:Most if not all the pellets you mentioned I would consider good for melting down to make sinkers, they probably cost the same as a quality pellet such as the H&N's or JSB's.The FTT's are 8•64grn ( I'm having a cuppa, couldn't be bothered to go have a look and check,lol ), headsize is 4•50, JSB Exacts are slightly lighter I think at 8•44grns but their headsize is 4•52 and my BSA doesn't like them, both these brands make 10•6ish grn pellets also which will bring the velocity down and slightly lower the noise. Contact ACME Firearms for H&N pellets or Potters Target Firearms for JSB pellets
I haven't found any other ones yet, ive bought the best that ive come across.The stoegers ive been nothing but impressed with but im not about to just stop and not try more, remember i only picked up my rifle a few days ago so its not like ive had a lot of time to find slugs Life gets in the way sometimes... Cost is never a factor when im purchasing slugs, just what ive been able to get. In regards to the H&N and JSB i can source them myself (wholesale Perks of my current job ) but i need to work out what i want and do a decent order from supplier,so this is why im trying to research as much as i can, im not going to order small volume because i will get raped by shipping and while we have an account we don't stock products on shelf so im ordering just for myself unfortunatly.
So lets talk H&N for starters, i have available 11 different types, which ones would you recommend precisely? Have you tried any of the ones like "magnum rabbit II" , "sniper magnum"or the piledriver? Which particular pattern/s would you think best for close range small game? Obviously the waddcutters the pick for punching paper yeah?
I will also order some JSB as well.
So do you have an idea about what weight to stay above to keep it subsonic?
pomemax wrote:cheap enough for a 50 cal pcp
http://www.ausarms.com.au/links/categor ... ubcat_id=4
Strikey wrote:Gamerancher wrote:Had Noggin visit here yesterday till after midnight. He works for a Family in town driving trucks. I got him a start there last year for harvest and he stayed on.
He came out to have a few shots out of my Creedmore, he's thinking of building one.
Was wondering where Noggin got to but now you are converting him to a latte sipping Creedmore shooter, he needs a proper girls gun, something in 25 cal perhaps,lolDunxy wrote:Strikey wrote:Most if not all the pellets you mentioned I would consider good for melting down to make sinkers, they probably cost the same as a quality pellet such as the H&N's or JSB's.The FTT's are 8•64grn ( I'm having a cuppa, couldn't be bothered to go have a look and check,lol ), headsize is 4•50, JSB Exacts are slightly lighter I think at 8•44grns but their headsize is 4•52 and my BSA doesn't like them, both these brands make 10•6ish grn pellets also which will bring the velocity down and slightly lower the noise. Contact ACME Firearms for H&N pellets or Potters Target Firearms for JSB pellets
I haven't found any other ones yet, ive bought the best that ive come across.The stoegers ive been nothing but impressed with but im not about to just stop and not try more, remember i only picked up my rifle a few days ago so its not like ive had a lot of time to find slugs Life gets in the way sometimes... Cost is never a factor when im purchasing slugs, just what ive been able to get. In regards to the H&N and JSB i can source them myself (wholesale Perks of my current job ) but i need to work out what i want and do a decent order from supplier,so this is why im trying to research as much as i can, im not going to order small volume because i will get raped by shipping and while we have an account we don't stock products on shelf so im ordering just for myself unfortunatly.
So lets talk H&N for starters, i have available 11 different types, which ones would you recommend precisely? Have you tried any of the ones like "magnum rabbit II" , "sniper magnum"or the piledriver? Which particular pattern/s would you think best for close range small game? Obviously the waddcutters the pick for punching paper yeah?
I will also order some JSB as well.
So do you have an idea about what weight to stay above to keep it subsonic?
Forget about the Rabbit Magnum, piledrivers etc, don't know of anyone being able to get decent accuracy with them, wadcutters are usually designed for 10m guns and air pistols, as in low power airguns not much good past 10-15m, as with every rifle buy one tin of the type of pellets you might like to try, then see if your air rifle will group half decently with one of those types then try some of the same in a different headsize, H&N have a selection of varying sizes,JSB's in this country unfortunately only come in the one headsize for each calibre. It may be a long exercise but saves buying a ****** of pellets only to find you can't hit a rabbits head at 40m, personally I just stick with the diabolo shape pellets and the rabbits seem to fall over dead, don't concern yourself with fancy pellets, the one that shoots accurately is what you need and I doubt very much if your rifle will shoot anything supersonic
bladeracer wrote:pomemax wrote:cheap enough for a 50 cal pcp
http://www.ausarms.com.au/links/categor ... ubcat_id=4
Those sub-$1000 rifles look like fun. I'm going to have to do some research.
In powder rifles we know there's a sweet spot at 6-7mm and .338-.375" - is there a sweet spot in air rifle calibers? When I was a youngster I shot air rifles competitively and we always looked at .177 for accuracy, .22 was for energy rather than accuracy.
I see they sell 9mm pellets for $10/46, dearer than a lot of .22LR ammo.