vmaxaust wrote:I'm not passing judgement on those who choose to hunt, as I've been a subsistence hunter myself in times past, I'd just like to hear from others who honestly want to give their opinion on why they hunt,,,,,,,,
No hunting for me. I believe in subsistence hunting for those who actually use the meat but I just go to the butcher.
Ferals and pests I would have no problem in hunting.
Those hunting to take a trophy photo only make me sick.
Sam
vmaxaust wrote:Do you not think they take the meat from their trophies? I would think the majority would - personally I don't have a problem with people wanting trophies for all the hard work they put in (as I say trophies aren't of great interest to me but if I found something with great antlers, tusks or Horns etc I would happily shoot it to say something that was standing next to it that didn't have the aforementioned.
Conallin24 wrote:I am 16 and have been hunting as long as I can remember. I don't really hunt for the meat although bringing back some makes dad happy. I just do it because it's fun. Shooting natives is not really different to ferals. For example duck. I don't see why people don't like trophies, I am going to be keeping my first Pheasant forever.
bigfellascott wrote:Conallin24 wrote:I am 16 and have been hunting as long as I can remember. I don't really hunt for the meat although bringing back some makes dad happy. I just do it because it's fun. Shooting natives is not really different to ferals. For example duck. I don't see why people don't like trophies, I am going to be keeping my first Pheasant forever.
Nothing wrong with wanting to shoot trophies mate, if that's what you want to do and makes you happy, do it I say.
wildcard6 wrote:The ethics of hunting are as many and varied as the number of people who hunt. I don't understand the people who hunt trophies, but I'm not about to tell them they're wrong. I've spent time in Africa years ago and enjoyed seeing wild animals in their natural habitat - the thought never even occurred to me to kill any of them... But there are people who go to Africa at huge expense to kill animals to have them stuffed [why not take a picture?!]. No, I just don't understand those people. But are they wrong? To me, yes, but obviously not to them... Who is to judge?
I only kill pests, be they introduced or native. Someone says, 'Kill these' and I do it, because I can do it. I like the philosophical answer to your question that says, "I don't hunt to kill, I only kill to have hunted'. It is this hunting instinct that drives the hunter. Everybody needs to rationalize the 'why' for themselves. My only tip - if you kill for pleasure - seek help!
bigfellascott wrote:wildcard6 wrote:The ethics of hunting are as many and varied as the number of people who hunt. I don't understand the people who hunt trophies, but I'm not about to tell them they're wrong. I've spent time in Africa years ago and enjoyed seeing wild animals in their natural habitat - the thought never even occurred to me to kill any of them... But there are people who go to Africa at huge expense to kill animals to have them stuffed [why not take a picture?!]. No, I just don't understand those people. But are they wrong? To me, yes, but obviously not to them... Who is to judge?
I only kill pests, be they introduced or native. Someone says, 'Kill these' and I do it, because I can do it. I like the philosophical answer to your question that says, "I don't hunt to kill, I only kill to have hunted'. It is this hunting instinct that drives the hunter. Everybody needs to rationalize the 'why' for themselves. My only tip - if you kill for pleasure - seek help!
Anyone you can recommend? I get pleasure out of hunting so I do need help
Daddybang wrote:bigfellascott wrote:wildcard6 wrote:The ethics of hunting are as many and varied as the number of people who hunt. I don't understand the people who hunt trophies, but I'm not about to tell them they're wrong. I've spent time in Africa years ago and enjoyed seeing wild animals in their natural habitat - the thought never even occurred to me to kill any of them... But there are people who go to Africa at huge expense to kill animals to have them stuffed [why not take a picture?!]. No, I just don't understand those people. But are they wrong? To me, yes, but obviously not to them... Who is to judge?
I only kill pests, be they introduced or native. Someone says, 'Kill these' and I do it, because I can do it. I like the philosophical answer to your question that says, "I don't hunt to kill, I only kill to have hunted'. It is this hunting instinct that drives the hunter. Everybody needs to rationalize the 'why' for themselves. My only tip - if you kill for pleasure - seek help!
Anyone you can recommend? I get pleasure out of hunting so I do need help
Best book in early I reckon!!
sungazer wrote:Personally I am on the same lines as wildcard6. the only reason I kill is for pests or for food quite often one in the same. I have a roo cull permit but only kill them now and then and when the dog needs food. I cover three property owners that have problems with roos. killing the off one now and then keeps them away more than having a killing spree. Keeping them under control is the aim as we all want a few roos to show the city visitors.
It is so easy to kill that its not really a challenge Big trophy dear or small doe takes the same skill.
But each to their own. sometimes it is fun tracking them.
bigfellascott wrote:Daddybang wrote:bigfellascott wrote:wildcard6 wrote:The ethics of hunting are as many and varied as the number of people who hunt. I don't understand the people who hunt trophies, but I'm not about to tell them they're wrong. I've spent time in Africa years ago and enjoyed seeing wild animals in their natural habitat - the thought never even occurred to me to kill any of them... But there are people who go to Africa at huge expense to kill animals to have them stuffed [why not take a picture?!]. No, I just don't understand those people. But are they wrong? To me, yes, but obviously not to them... Who is to judge?
I only kill pests, be they introduced or native. Someone says, 'Kill these' and I do it, because I can do it. I like the philosophical answer to your question that says, "I don't hunt to kill, I only kill to have hunted'. It is this hunting instinct that drives the hunter. Everybody needs to rationalize the 'why' for themselves. My only tip - if you kill for pleasure - seek help!
Anyone you can recommend? I get pleasure out of hunting so I do need help
Best book in early I reckon!!
I'll see ya there will I along with heap of other people who shoot animals and actually enjoy the pursuit/challenges that it entails.
Bigjobss wrote:Killing an animal is always killing an animal, regardless of species, status as a pest or perception of its intrinsic worth. If it is sustainable, ethical and legal it is all the same.
You can take the supposed moral high ground and say that you only kill for your chosen reason such as meat (which I only do because I have little time and filling the freeszer is #1), but that doesnt make you any different to the trophy hunter, it doesnt make the animal any less dead.
wildcard6 wrote:Everybody needs to rationalize the 'why' for themselves. My only tip - if you kill for pleasure - seek help!