Tips for hunting feral dogs.

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Re: Tips for hunting feral dogs.

Post by marksman » 20 Dec 2017, 1:20 pm

Oldbloke wrote:I think some times people get a bit over excited about having a rifle for every occasion. As long as your not under or way over gunned it will do the job 95% of the time.


good point Oldbloke, but some of us just think if one is good two is better and three is much better and four is, well much better again :lol:
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Re: Tips for hunting feral dogs.

Post by Oldbloke » 20 Dec 2017, 1:38 pm

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Oldbloke wrote:I think some times people get a bit over excited about having a rifle for every occasion. As long as your not under or way over gunned it will do the job 95% of the time.


good point Oldbloke, but some of us just think if one is good two is better and three is much better and four is, well much better again :lol:


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Re: Tips for hunting feral dogs.

Post by RoginaJack » 20 Dec 2017, 3:25 pm

My shooting partner uses a 270win. on dogs and reckons anything less is too little. That is one thing about the 30 06 it is and also will be a very versatile cartridge.
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Re: Tips for hunting feral dogs.

Post by Stix » 20 Dec 2017, 3:39 pm

bigrich wrote:Yup, thanx for the input stix . Sticking with 22-250 is the smart move. Just wanted to go over this again to make sure before rebarrelling. That range of calibers does give me a nice spread. That krico hornet rifle has gone to gunsmiths to have a mag feed issue sorted, but mate, it was shooting clovers leafs at 50 on a new barrel and my skills ain't up there yet. Definitely a keeper. Got a krico in 22lr coming as well that should be a great thing


Mate your'e such a nice bloke...you know...getting the mag feed issues on the Hornet sorted before you send it my way... :shock: :lol:

Im getting jealous of your little working collection already mate...!!!
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Re: Tips for hunting feral dogs.

Post by bigrich » 20 Dec 2017, 8:47 pm

yeh well stix,spent a lot off years workin' hard blue collar jobs to get to a point where i can spend a bit on my hobbies. i'm buying and tring all the stuff i couldn't afford when i was a young fella. i probably will let a couple go before too long but. i don't mind shooting paper , more of a challenge to myself to get good learn and improve rather than trying to be better than the next bloke. trying to pin down a couple of mates with contacts to get out in field and take out some ferals. got burned on a brno zkw 22 hornet i think. looks great, new bluing fresh barrel ,stocks in good nick, it's even bedded. but it shoots 3 inch groups at 100 and point of impact changes drastically with change of ammo brand.any ideas ? i think the head spacing isn't right maybe. was thinking of moving it on as i like my krico better anyway what rifles you got stix and what do you use them for ?
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Re: Tips for hunting feral dogs.

Post by marksman » 20 Dec 2017, 9:14 pm

reload your 22 hornet using pistol primers, 40-45 grain projies and lil gun powder, use a lee crimp die to crimp the cases as the primer strike can/does move the projectile into the lands causing an upset as the oal will be different when it shoots
if that dont work you can sell it to me CHEAP cause you are a good guy :drinks:
if not rebarrel to 17 hornet, you will not regret it ;)
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Re: Tips for hunting feral dogs.

Post by marksman » 20 Dec 2017, 9:17 pm

RoginaJack wrote:My shooting partner uses a 270win. on dogs and reckons anything less is too little. That is one thing about the 30 06 it is and also will be a very versatile cartridge.


yes very true the 30-06 is a very versatile round, one of my fave's :thumbsup:
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Re: Tips for hunting feral dogs.

Post by Oldbloke » 20 Dec 2017, 9:27 pm

[quote="RoginaJack"]My shooting partner uses a 270win. on dogs and reckons anything less is too little. That is one thing about the 30 06 it is and also will be a very versatile cartridge.[/quot


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Re: Tips for hunting feral dogs.

Post by bigrich » 21 Dec 2017, 7:58 am

i just been shooting 45 gr rems, PPU, tried some expensive 35 gr winchester varmit x , all gave dismall results, 2 1/2" - 3" at 100 with the lighter rounds flying all over the place. my other rifles point of impact with different weights does not change that much at 100 but they are consistant. this refreshed old brno seems erractic in general. the smiths name on the side of the barrel is "baden hams" anyone heard of him ? shooting factory ammo out of my mod 70 6.5x55 156gr norma vulkans, 131gr s&b sp , at 100 the point of impact does not change and i have shot 1 1/4" with these. my 22 mag shoots 1" at 100 with 45gr win pp's, opens up to 2 1/2 with 30gr cci maxi's but point of aim is the same.by comparrison this brno is frustrating me. still a newbie so haven't got to reloading yet, still buying and trying different rifles to see what's going to work for me (and it is fun ! ) was talking to a fella at the range that had the same issue with a zkw and could't solve the problem. i have looked at 17 hornet marksman and it is a very impressive round. but as it is i've probably got too many bunny guns already. thinking about cutting my losses with this one and putting it down to experience. i reckon the bolt head spacing could be wrong, ppu ammo was tight to close the bolt on in my 22 hornet krico, but in the brno it's no different to other brands. all brands shot consistant and really well in my krico. suppose i could give it to my local smith , but how much money do you sink into a old rifle
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Re: Tips for hunting feral dogs.

Post by RoginaJack » 21 Dec 2017, 4:15 pm

Oldbloke wrote:
RoginaJack wrote:My shooting partner uses a 270win. on dogs and reckons anything less is too little. That is one thing about the 30 06 it is and also will be a very versatile cartridge.[/quot


What weight bullets?


130gr and uses the same for deer down NSW way. Me. I'm happy with the 243w using Speer 75gr HP. for dogs, foxes and cats.

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Re: Tips for hunting feral dogs.

Post by Stix » 21 Dec 2017, 4:45 pm

bigrich wrote:yeh well stix,spent a lot off years workin' hard blue collar jobs to get to a point where i can spend a bit on my hobbies. i'm buying and tring all the stuff i couldn't afford when i was a young fella. i probably will let a couple go before too long but. i don't mind shooting paper , more of a challenge to myself to get good learn and improve rather than trying to be better than the next bloke. trying to pin down a couple of mates with contacts to get out in field and take out some ferals. got burned on a brno zkw 22 hornet i think. looks great, new bluing fresh barrel ,stocks in good nick, it's even bedded. but it shoots 3 inch groups at 100 and point of impact changes drastically with change of ammo brand.any ideas ? i think the head spacing isn't right maybe. was thinking of moving it on as i like my krico better anyway what rifles you got stix and what do you use them for ?


I dont have many mate...
Got the obligatory .22lr, a .204, .222, 2 x 22-250 (well actually 3 22-250's soon, as i just bought another one...you know, cos it was screaming at me), & 7-08.

Want to get a .243 for goats, so maybe next pay ill order that.
My ol'man is trying to line up an old winchester 32-20 lever for $200...gees i hope that comes through...!!!

And there is of course maybe one of your hornets mate...are you reading this marksman...?...!!...thats right, i put dibs on it a-ways back so hands off...!!! :)

Oh and a couple of shotguns that are no good to me--neither of them fit me so i shoot like sh*t with them..
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Re: Tips for hunting feral dogs.

Post by Stix » 21 Dec 2017, 4:49 pm

marksman wrote:if that dont work you can sell it to me CHEAP cause you are a good guy :drinks: ... ...


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Post by bigrich » 21 Dec 2017, 5:59 pm

that's a good collection stix, 222 is a good thing i reckon. 7-08 is what i would have if i wasn't a 6.5 mauser tragic. at present i have a cz 452 supermatch 22lr, picking up a deluxe krico 400 22lr tomorrow i hope, got my two hornets, a weihrauch hw60j in 22 mag that i will never sell, that krico 22-250, 6,5 mod 70 , 1909 carl gustav and today i did a trade. near new marlin 336 i picked up cheap got swapped for a 1974 mod 94 in really amazing condition. wouldn't mind another old winchester like ya dads 32-20. think i found out what's wrong with that brno. on the original barrel they have a band the rear sight mounts on. BUT this also bolts to the stock. think that's the reason for the poor accuracy. so it's going to the dark recesses of my safe till i decide whether to sell it, swap it, or get a band made to suit or set it up with a varmit barrel and a stock to suit. live and learn i guess. i was seriously considering a 243 myself, but i think i have a good spread of rifles now. how do you find 204 ruger ? was reading on another post they can be loaded down to hornet levels easily
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Re: Tips for hunting feral dogs.

Post by marksman » 21 Dec 2017, 7:30 pm

awwwww cmon guy's
its not like I'm greedy :lol: :lol:
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Re: Tips for hunting feral dogs.

Post by sungazer » 21 Dec 2017, 8:06 pm

Nice :thumbsup:
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Re: Tips for hunting feral dogs.

Post by bigrich » 21 Dec 2017, 8:25 pm

i notice on the rebarrelled zkw it has a heavy barrel. i think that's why my zkw doesn't shoot well . it's got a slim sporter profile. leupold and zeiss scopes too.like your style mate. cant wait to get my krico 400 back after seeing all that hornet rifle goodness :D
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Re: Tips for hunting feral dogs.

Post by Stix » 21 Dec 2017, 8:46 pm

Wow...they both look amazing together marksman...!

I really like how the rustic timber paling fence works with the grass mate...!




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Im actually very envious...!

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Re: Tips for hunting feral dogs.

Post by Stix » 21 Dec 2017, 8:57 pm

Oh and i forgot to say too big rich, im trying to convince a guy to sell me his win mod 70 in 257 roberts...as soon as i break him down its mine...!!!

So that, my new 22-250 & 243 along with your hornet will keep me busy for a while mate...!!!
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Re: Tips for hunting feral dogs.

Post by bigrich » 22 Dec 2017, 6:05 am

ha ha your a real character stix :lol: a mod 70 in 257 roberts is a unusual bit of gear mate
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Re: Tips for hunting feral dogs.

Post by Gamerancher » 22 Dec 2017, 6:32 am

If it is an original pre-64, grab it with both hands and send it to me!!!! :friends:
Otherwise, if it is one of the 1980's built Featherweights, grab it anyway. Excellent rifle in the "best" chambering. :D
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Re: Tips for hunting feral dogs.

Post by bigrich » 22 Dec 2017, 8:02 am

lots of info online for winnies, found out my super grade was made in south carolina by FN/herstal in 2013. it is a controlled feed 6.5x55 model. had my eye on a 1973 70 xtr in 243 in a local shop, but i was too slow. hope you get yours stix :thumbsup:
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Re: Tips for hunting feral dogs.

Post by Stix » 22 Dec 2017, 8:26 pm

Gamerancher wrote:If it is an original pre-64, grab it with both hands and send it to me!!!! :friends:
Otherwise, if it is one of the 1980's built Featherweights, grab it anyway. Excellent rifle in the "best" chambering. :D


I cant remember what vintage it is...but ill be doing my best to get a tight grip on it...& it wont be going anywhere...!

The "best" chambering you say...???

Im looking forward to owning one thats for sure...!
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Re: Tips for hunting feral dogs.

Post by Stix » 22 Dec 2017, 9:19 pm

Thanks bigrich, so do i...ive got a reasonable chance of getting it...just depends on whether someone else who's known him longer decides they want it more i guess...
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Re: Tips for hunting feral dogs.

Post by Gamerancher » 23 Dec 2017, 7:59 am

Just showing my personal bias towards an excellent "all-rounder", especially considering the title of this thread. :thumbsup:
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Re: Tips for hunting feral dogs.

Post by Stix » 23 Dec 2017, 6:24 pm

Yea goodo gamerancher...& thats why i want one...the people i know whom have owned, loaded for, hunted with & shot a .257 are just as adamant as you yourself...!!

I know of 2 blokes, both of whom have offered to give me first dibs on their .257's...
Im keen on the Win mod 70, but the other unit will shoot better being a custom build.

Ill post up here when & if i ever get either of them...
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Re: Tips for hunting feral dogs.

Post by bigrich » 24 Dec 2017, 6:45 am

i picked up a couple of new guns in a swapsie deal with my local gunshop. don't send me hate mail fellas but i traded out of my zkw. i already have a krico 400 hornet that groups amazing anyway. i picked up a deluxe krico 22 lr with adjustable trigger , and it really is in amazing condition for a 50 year old rifle. i wont be suprised if it shoots rings around my cz 452 super match. and the other beutty is a 1974 mod 94 that's basically new. hardly a mark on the stock and nearly perfect blue.did a like for like deal with a marlin on the winnie, the krico 22 i already had a deposit on . local GS will probably close the doors when they see me coming after all the paperwork they had to do :crazy: i reckon i done alright, that zkw didn't group well at all. no hate mail please stix .... :lol:
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Re: Tips for hunting feral dogs.

Post by Stix » 24 Dec 2017, 6:49 am

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Re: Tips for hunting feral dogs.

Post by bigrich » 24 Dec 2017, 7:23 am

aawwww, c'mon stix, my krico hornet shoots heaps better than a crappy old brno :lol: probably get lots of hate mail now :sarcasm: . the money i'm not spending on sorting the zkw i'm saving for rebarrelling my krico 22-250. does that make it better mate ? :D . thinking about a "tree change" moving out a hour past Toowoomba to get on a couple hundred acres and shoot whenever i want. should be able to sell my suburban block and get house and land outright. should be able to drive into town for work, it's looking good but
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Re: Tips for hunting feral dogs.

Post by marksman » 24 Dec 2017, 9:24 am

l see what you have done bigrich (bigyrat) :sarcasm: :lol: :lol:

sometimes it is better to move them on but sometimes it better to learn from them and it can be a lottery when buying secondhand
most shooters will never sell a really accurate rifle unless they are in a really bad spot
I think you did ok in your deal :thumbsup: :drinks:

by the way to call a zkw a crappy old brno is blasphemy, may you rot in hell :sarcasm: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Re: Tips for hunting feral dogs.

Post by bigrich » 24 Dec 2017, 2:22 pm

:lol: just kidding marksman. yeh i absolutely agree about the buying second hand can be a lottery at times. sometimes there's a reason a rifle is up for sale. from what i can gather the light sporter barrel mine was rebarreled with was moving around cause it had no barrel/rear sight band. all the ones i've heard off that shoot well after a rebarrel have a heavy barrel profile. didn't want to sink more money into it when i have a krico with a great trigger and a fresh varmit barrel. live and learn hey :drinks:
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