Oldbloke wrote:This subject often comes up so I will just post this from the adi loading manual.
Oldbloke wrote:This subject often comes up so I will just post this from the adi loading manual.
Bills Shed wrote:Oldbloke wrote:This subject often comes up so I will just post this from the adi loading manual.
Whos calling trail boss slow?
Bill
Scooter wrote:.22 & .223 was the decision. Thanks everyone for the input. Much appreciated. Hornet in the future not out of the question either.
fxol wrote:My .204 load of 32gn ZMax at 2400fps is perfect for close range small game, and cheap enough. It's sort of halfway between the .22WMR and the Hornet. You can shoot these loads all day without getting the barrel warm.
Bladeracer, I'm interested in this load, Im assuming it's trailboss? How accurate and what sort of range is it good for?
Scooter wrote:Thanks Stix, I’ll give it a whirl.
Reckon I’ll end up with a CZ527 in .22 Hornet.
Stix wrote:It was under moa (tested at 100yds) but was 4" low & 1" left to the standard load, which both use 32 zmax...
I would have tried it on bunnies if holdover were the only factor...
When i get time ill try a load test & see if i get a charge that groups well & is only vertically challenged (Low with no windage shift) but i doubt ill be lucky there.
Gwion wrote:No worries. I tend to use the reduced loads more often than the fulls when out pest shooting. Less noise disturbs fewer pest which means more targets to hand for longer. I also have a couple of 22lr for inside 75m but can't see the point in buying and paying for 22wmr or 22hornet when i can load the 223rem to suit.
Oldbloke wrote:US, the little whipper snapper.
Next I will be dead.
Gwion wrote:Hey Scooter. Invest time and cash into learning to reload. Then you can use trailboss powder and varmint style bullets to load your 223rem down to a hot 22wmr. I run 50gn zmax bullets with trailboss behind them out of an 18" barrel for about 1850fps. A 22wmr will do that velocity with full length barrel and 40gn bullets.
My absolute max range for that load is 140m because after 110m it start dropping really quickly. Also sounds roughly as loud as 22wmr.
Gwion wrote:No worries. I tend to use the reduced loads more often than the fulls when out pest shooting. Less noise disturbs fewer pest which means more targets to hand for longer. I also have a couple of 22lr for inside 75m but can't see the point in buying and paying for 22wmr or 22hornet when i can load the 223rem to suit.
bladeracer wrote:Gwion wrote:Hey Scooter. Invest time and cash into learning to reload. Then you can use trailboss powder and varmint style bullets to load your 223rem down to a hot 22wmr. I run 50gn zmax bullets with trailboss behind them out of an 18" barrel for about 1850fps. A 22wmr will do that velocity with full length barrel and 40gn bullets.
My absolute max range for that load is 140m because after 110m it start dropping really quickly. Also sounds roughly as loud as 22wmr.
You can load .223 right down to subsonic giving you .22LR noise with jacketed bullet accuracy.
ADI list 4.0gn behind a 53gn bullet at 1040fps.
It got 1180fps out of my RAR though so I'm going to try 3.0gn and the 35gn bullet.