axio wrote:Hi All
Should get my PTA soon and looking to grab a howa 223 in either Mini or Short action
Primary use will be target shooting and would go for the heavy barrel version
Other than the length of pull/weight reduction what compelling reasons are there to go for either option?
Gwion wrote:The shorter the actiin the stiffer the action... that's a good thing for fine precision. I'm not convinced longer barrels are a big deal on a 223rem. If the OP gets serious about target shooting he will likely end up with a target rifle and his howa will end up being a hunter or he will sell it on or get it trued and rebarrelled eventually.
Just my take on it.
Gwion wrote:True. But if you are seriously trying to shoot further than 500yds you will go a 6.5 or 7mm rather than 223...
sungazer wrote:...even the 8 twist will probably not let you shoot the 80 grn bullets required in F class competition...
sungazer wrote:I haven't tried any as yet. Do you push them pretty fast? I will have to look at the lengths of those compared to the Sierra MK 80 grn.
Update: you are allowed to compete with Sierra MK 69 grn
The other projectiles are the Hornady Amax 80grn No longer made I think, the Nosler HPBT 80 grn, JLK VLD 80 grn Berger VLD Target 80 grn and Berger Match Fullbore 80.5 grn.
The powder is BM2, AR2206H 2206H, 2208 and BM8208 thats it.
sungazer wrote:I haven't tried any as yet. Do you push them pretty fast? I will have to look at the lengths of those compared to the Sierra MK 80 grn.
Update: you are allowed to compete with Sierra MK 69 grn
The other projectiles are the Hornady Amax 80grn No longer made I think, the Nosler HPBT 80 grn, JLK VLD 80 grn Berger VLD Target 80 grn and Berger Match Fullbore 80.5 grn.
The powder is BM2, AR2206H 2206H, 2208 and BM8208 thats it.
sungazer wrote:Yep and I have suggested that to a few budding target rifle shooters that have been on the forum. However if you really don't have the funds to go all out at once it is possible to enter the sport with a factory rifle.
bladeracer wrote:sungazer wrote:Yep and I have suggested that to a few budding target rifle shooters that have been on the forum. However if you really don't have the funds to go all out at once it is possible to enter the sport with a factory rifle.
I asked my nearest club and they said I could certainly have a go with my rifles, but if I had no intention of building a "proper" rifle for F-Class I wouldn't be accepted as a member. My only interest in any competition will always be to simply better my shooting skills for the real world, I have no interest in competing just for the sake of competing.
I would definitely be interested in joining in a hunter class if it were available around here.
bladeracer wrote:sungazer wrote:...even the 8 twist will probably not let you shoot the 80 grn bullets required in F class competition...
80gn ELDM works fine in my 8"-twist Ruger.