Daddybang wrote:Grumpy wrote:Possessing casings for calibres not on your licence can have the potential to bring you unstuck big time if you’re not careful.
Yep and even if ya have a ammo collectors license the collection must be stored the same as live ammunition
Die Judicii wrote:So what do the museums do,,,,, and the RSL exhibitions,,,,, ???
Don't tell me,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, They have had special GLASS safes/vaults made to keep them in, so the public can still see them.
kb1 wrote:how does this type of sh*t even get voted into law over here. next theyll closed down ranges due to millions of spent (live) ammo shells laying on the ground
Daddybang wrote:kb1 wrote:how does this type of sh*t even get voted into law over here. next theyll closed down ranges due to millions of spent (live) ammo shells laying on the ground
They don't legislate they regulate which means it doesn't get voted on!!
bibendum wrote:By law in WA, empty (even fired) centrefire brass, projectiles, Shotgun hulls, shotgun wads, primers all need to be kept in a safe that is the equivalent of your gun safe.
Spent rimfire brass is not designed to be reloadable, so would not class as ammunition according to the definition in the act (although stories abound of people getting charged with empty 22lr shell possession but it's normally to bolster other charges, not stand alone).
It's a crazy law but that's what it is.
bladeracer wrote:bibendum wrote:Spent rimfire brass is not designed to be reloadable, so would not class as ammunition according to the definition in the act (although stories abound of people getting charged with empty 22lr shell possession but it's normally to bolster other charges, not stand alone).
It's a crazy law but that's what it is.
Does it specifiy in the act that brass only counts as ammunition if it is reloadable?
I thought it simply states "cartridge cases"
I didn't think wads were classed as ammunition though..
bibendum wrote:Given that you cannot readily and easily reload it. It is a single use item. A cop could possible try to bluff a charge, but all you would need to do is ask "OK, so how do I make this capable of being discharged from a firearm?"
animalpest wrote:The WA Firearms Act describes ammunition as anything designed to be "discharged from a firearm". I dont think my rifles dischrge brass cases as they are still in the gun, but they do bullets, powder and primers.
animalpest wrote:Your rifle certainly dischrges the powder. It comes out the bsrrel as burn powder and gas. Perhaps reading the dictionsry will allow you to see what I mean and the Act means.
So going back to the brass, no it is not exiting the firearm such as powder, bullet and priming compound does. Brass cases, once fired and empty are not ammunition.
Exactly.rc42 wrote:A literal interpretation of WA legislation includes brass as a component of ammunition and therefore subject to all of the restrictions that are applied to loaded ammunition.
However, there has been recognition at high level that the wording should be amended to exclude empty brass whether reloadable or not (chapter 5.1 in the pdf file linked). Not sure how far this is from being adopted but the chance of being prosecuted for possession of empty brass appears to very low.
https://www.parliament.wa.gov.au/public ... p-4930.pdf