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WA Licence Revocations

Post by bladeracer » 22 May 2018, 1:35 pm

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Post by Angel » 22 May 2018, 2:15 pm

Hmm if its a serious offence then so be it... But for a minor one seems to be quite harsh.
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Post by ponkychonk » 22 May 2018, 6:33 pm

Surely they are checking every year upon renewal anyway
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Post by bladeracer » 22 May 2018, 6:57 pm

ponkychonk wrote:Surely they are checking every year upon renewal anyway


Do that only have one-year licences over there?
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Post by ponkychonk » 22 May 2018, 7:18 pm

bladeracer wrote:
ponkychonk wrote:Surely they are checking every year upon renewal anyway


Do that only have one-year licences over there?


Yep. Although I think older licenses are possibly grandfathered into different renewal times (if they have the need to renew at all.)

Collectors licenses are also 5 years. But the standard A/B or H licenses are 1 year only.
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Post by Daddybang » 22 May 2018, 7:22 pm

ponkychonk wrote:
bladeracer wrote:
ponkychonk wrote:Surely they are checking every year upon renewal anyway


Do that only have one-year licences over there?


Yep. Although I think older licenses are possibly grandfathered into different renewal times (if they have the need to renew at all.)

Collectors licenses are also 5 years. But the standard A/B or H licenses are 1 year only.


What do they sting ya's for renewal each year???
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Post by Thom318 » 22 May 2018, 9:48 pm

$54 a year if I remember rightly. Apparently the computer system over here was never intended to allow for 5 year licenses
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Post by ponkychonk » 22 May 2018, 10:01 pm

Yeah its 54 for me.
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Post by Noisydad » 22 May 2018, 10:14 pm

I think the eastern states should be accepting WA shooters as political refugees then tear WA off at the dotted on the map and let it drift off into the Indian Ocean!
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Post by Daddybang » 23 May 2018, 6:32 am

Noisydad wrote:I think the eastern states should be accepting WA shooters as political refugees then tear WA off at the dotted on the map and let it drift off into the Indian Ocean!


Not a bad idea at all!!! :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Post by Angel » 23 May 2018, 12:47 pm

Noisydad wrote:I think the eastern states should be accepting WA shooters as political refugees then tear WA off at the dotted on the map and let it drift off into the Indian Ocean!

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Post by Diamond Jim » 10 Jul 2019, 6:37 pm

My renewal in August 2018 was $55 - yes it had gone up.
One frustrating aspect of firearm licencing in WA is that each and every firearm is, effectively, licensed individually. So while the licence holder is authorised to own and use the firearms on their licence, every individual firearm has to be justified and approved separately. If we want to replace one with another of similar or same calibre we have to go through the whole process of proving genuine reason/genuine need and supply new property letters every time PLUS pay an Addition fee (or "noting fee") of $184 although you can add several fireams of the same class on one application. If a licensed owner wanted to add a centerfire and a rimfire at the same time that would be two fees totalling $368.
We also need to supply a "serviceability certificate" for every addition - usually the dealer will supply this for free for firearms purchased from them but we need to pay a dealer for an inspection and certificate for all private sales.
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Post by duncan61 » 10 Jul 2019, 8:34 pm

I put through my mates .243 Brno,Savage Hornet and 22 LR win on one application after he had his stuff seized.He has passed on now .I am sure it is the post office that sets the price for the application
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Post by Sawyers » 13 Jul 2019, 4:28 pm

Diamond Jim wrote:My renewal in August 2018 was $55 - yes it had gone up.
One frustrating aspect of firearm licencing in WA is that each and every firearm is, effectively, licensed individually. So while the licence holder is authorised to own and use the firearms on their licence, every individual firearm has to be justified and approved separately. If we want to replace one with another of similar or same calibre we have to go through the whole process of proving genuine reason/genuine need and supply new property letters every time PLUS pay an Addition fee (or "noting fee") of $184 although you can add several fireams of the same class on one application. If a licensed owner wanted to add a centerfire and a rimfire at the same time that would be two fees totalling $368.
We also need to supply a "serviceability certificate" for every addition - usually the dealer will supply this for free for firearms purchased from them but we need to pay a dealer for an inspection and certificate for all private sales.

Ive licensed cat A &B firearms at the same time and it was the one off payment of $184.

Has anyone put in an application lately and if so what was the waiting time untill approval. For me its coming up 8 weeks since I put my application in.
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Post by Diamond Jim » 13 Apr 2020, 1:41 am

Sawyers wrote:Ive licensed cat A &B firearms at the same time and it was the one off payment of $184.

Has anyone put in an application lately and if so what was the waiting time untill approval. For me its coming up 8 weeks since I put my application in.


From the WAPOL website:
"Addition to your existing Firearms Licence
Categories A and B can be submitted on one application. Categories C, H and E applications are required to be submitted separately. Each application will incur a separate fee."

My apologies, I was wrong in my earlier post. Lesson to check the source and not rely on memory.
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Post by Ziege » 13 Apr 2020, 9:14 am

Diamond Jim wrote:My renewal in August 2018 was $55 - yes it had gone up.
One frustrating aspect of firearm licencing in WA is that each and every firearm is, effectively, licensed individually. So while the licence holder is authorised to own and use the firearms on their licence, every individual firearm has to be justified and approved separately. If we want to replace one with another of similar or same calibre we have to go through the whole process of proving genuine reason/genuine need and supply new property letters every time PLUS pay an Addition fee (or "noting fee") of $184 although you can add several fireams of the same class on one application. If a licensed owner wanted to add a centerfire and a rimfire at the same time that would be two fees totalling $368.
We also need to supply a "serviceability certificate" for every addition - usually the dealer will supply this for free for firearms purchased from them but we need to pay a dealer for an inspection and certificate for all private sales.



I've added centerfire and rimfire at the same time recently under this "user pays" system and before that and it's not double the fee. It's the same $184, which is more than expensive enough
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Post by Oldbloke » 13 Apr 2020, 11:17 am

Noisydad wrote:I think the eastern states should be accepting WA shooters as political refugees then tear WA off at the dotted on the map and let it drift off into the Indian Ocean!



Yeah, crap in Wait Awhile. Would never move there.
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Post by 1Fatman » 13 Apr 2020, 3:31 pm

Ive licensed cat A &B firearms at the same time and it was the one off payment of $184.

Has anyone put in an application lately and if so what was the waiting time untill approval. For me its coming up 8 weeks since I put my application in.[/quote]


I wouldn't get too excited as everyone that I have heard from have had them declined due to the virus, even if they were put in prior to it arriving.
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Post by 1Fatman » 13 Apr 2020, 3:34 pm

Noisydad wrote:I think the eastern states should be accepting WA shooters as political refugees then tear WA off at the dotted on the map and let it drift off into the Indian Ocean!


It wouldn't take long before you missed it, without the royalty money from the mining sector the rest of the country would soon fall apart.
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Post by 1Fatman » 13 Apr 2020, 3:34 pm

Noisydad wrote:I think the eastern states should be accepting WA shooters as political refugees then tear WA off at the dotted on the map and let it drift off into the Indian Ocean!


It wouldn't take long before you missed it, without the royalty money from the mining sector the rest of the country would soon fall apart.
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Post by AussieCapitalist » 13 Apr 2020, 5:07 pm

Only 1 year licences? Jeez. QLD has 10 years the same as passports.

How can they legally decline because of the virus? What does the WA firearms act/regulations say is a valid reason to decline a licence? Does it have a provision that the commissioner can decline for any reason? We all joke about socialists and dictatorships etc but still at the minute the WA government and the police have to follow the law. If someone is declined a licence for the reason being :"virus" than they should seek legal advise. Just because they approve a licence does not mean you can walk into the dealer and purchase.
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Post by Ziege » 13 Apr 2020, 5:58 pm

Yeah if you out in an application before the lockdown/state of emergency, it won't be processed or accepted or granted or whatever till after the state of emergency level is reduced
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Post by TassieTiger » 13 Apr 2020, 6:08 pm

If someone has used various ranges / or even SSAA membership as a reason for the gun application - then I doubt it will proceed until there’s clarification around businesses reopening.
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Post by AussieCapitalist » 13 Apr 2020, 7:02 pm

But is that legal? Does the act mention ranges must be open for trading? Or does it mention the commissioner can decline for any purpose? What does the act mention about rejection of licences? What matters is the law. If they are rejecting licences for unlawful purposes than they are breaking the law and lawyers would get hard over this stuff.
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Post by AussieCapitalist » 13 Apr 2020, 7:13 pm

Well just had a quick read of the act and the commissioner can exercise discretion to reject permits and licences if he feels "it is not desirable in the interests of public safety".


And have a look at this one. The governor may steal all dealers firearms.

"Governor may order delivery of firearms by dealers and manufacturers in cases of emergency
(1) Where the Governor is of opinion that any emergency has arisen, or is likely to arise, he may by proclamation declare that all dealers and manufacturers and repairers of firearms in the State, or in any specified portion of the State, having firearms or ammunition in their possession — (a) shall render the same innocuous by a method to be specified in the declaration; (b) shall deliver the same, or any parts or kinds of the same specified in the declaration, within a time and at a place so specified, to the Commissioner or any specified member of the Police Force, for the purpose of safe keeping."
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Post by 1Fatman » 13 Apr 2020, 7:39 pm

TassieTiger wrote:If someone has used various ranges / or even SSAA membership as a reason for the gun application - then I doubt it will proceed until there’s clarification around businesses reopening.


Ours doesn't work like that, if you are using it at the range then you need a club letter and then you can only use it at shooting ranges, competitions etc.
To be able to use a rifle to hunt with then you need a property letter giving you permission to shoot on their land, then you can jump through the hoops with the application.
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Post by Ziege » 13 Apr 2020, 7:45 pm

Yea as above, my friend bought an Adler straight pull and a tiger precision 22lr and he was revoked due to due state of emergency level 3
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Post by Diamond Jim » 17 Apr 2020, 6:10 pm

Thom318 wrote:$54 a year if I remember rightly. Apparently the computer system over here was never intended to allow for 5 year licenses

$56 according to the WAPOL website
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