Ziad wrote:The cz is likely cheaper than lithgow. 452 is the older Model than 455, apparently discontinued but they still make them. All will be very good. Why a varmint, you hunting bunnies? 22lr barrels don't really warm up, and don't see the point of too heavy a 22lr even if it's a target only... but I am no expert (just a noob)
in2anity wrote:The CZ455 has interchangeable barrels, some believe this is detrimental to accuracy. The 452 is the last of the CZs before they moved to the interchangeable 455s, that's basically why they are more expensive. The new CZs are generally regarded as accurate, but not quite the same quality as the older versions like the mod 2s. I've never seen a scientific comparison of the 452vs455, so be aware all of this is anecdotal. I know the 455s are popular for various comp shooting, particularly in the states, this is proof they must be pretty darn accurate.
The LA101 is quite a modern design - I own one. They are accurate - easily mechanically capable of sub moa. But they are also fairly heavy - not a trekking rifle. The comb is tall, which you will appreciate eventually. The cons with the Lithgows are the (stock) triggers are a little heavy (for target shooting) and a lot of the early built ones had feeding/stovepiping issues. If you buy a Lithgow, you run the very real risk of obtaining an (expensive) misfeeding rifle (which you'll need to wait while Lithgow rectifies) - you need to be across the serial numbers to mitigate this issue, I think the last two digits are the year built (there is more info on this forum regarding this if you do some digging). I'd only get a late 16 built one or later. Not to mention the Lithgows are also comparatively pricey. But once you've sorted these issues (and put the Lumley spring kit in ), they are an heirloom rifle.
Now i will throw a couple more possibilities into the mix: the Savage Mark II are often overlooked because savages are generally pretty cheap - the fact of the matter is, this is a true heavy-barrelled target rifle which I've witnessed shoot some darn good groups. Another option is to hang out till the Tikka t1x arrives - this is hotly anticipated product that could really shake up the industry - sako quality with a lower-than-lithgow pricetag, also offered in a compact 16" option which is just perfect if you'll only ever run a scope.
Hope this helps.
Cooper wrote:I have have a CZ452 and CZ455. The only reason I'd pick the CZ452 over the Cz455 is the cz452 was the first gun I ever bough. Other than that they both shoot about the same.
So other than sentimental reasons I would probably pick the CZ455 due to been able to change barrels. Mine is usually set up as a 17hmr. Yes you do have to sight it in again when changing barrels. But I don't find it much of a drama really.
southwest shooter wrote:Henry .
in2anity wrote:southwest shooter wrote:Henry .
Marlin 39a .
southwest shooter wrote:in2anity wrote:southwest shooter wrote:Henry .
Marlin 39a .
Henry better .
SCJ429 wrote:I don't think that you could go wrong with a rimfire made in Australia, Finland or Germany.
in2anity wrote:southwest shooter wrote:in2anity wrote:southwest shooter wrote:Henry .
Marlin 39a .
Henry better .
Nah ah - he Henry is a stamped and cast rifle that will be worn out in 20 years or so, and will have little value after a couple of years of use.
The Marlin 39-A is a forged and milled steel, American Walnut legend that will only be smoother, more accurate and valuable with time.
You get what you pay for!
TBJ wrote: I'm with you on this, although I'm more of a Winchester man so I'm going to say 94/22lr
bigrich wrote:You can’t go wrong with a weihrauch. Excellent build quality and very accurate. Excellent adjustable trigger
TBJ wrote:bigrich wrote:You can’t go wrong with a weihrauch. Excellent build quality and very accurate. Excellent adjustable trigger
What model for a heavy barrel? also what about the availability of mods for it?
allan wrote:TBJ wrote:bigrich wrote:You can’t go wrong with a weihrauch. Excellent build quality and very accurate. Excellent adjustable trigger
What model for a heavy barrel? also what about the availability of mods for it?
If you're looking for a heavy barrel and want to pay for a rifle that will last generations - These three:
WEIHRAUCH HW66JM
ANSCHUTZ 1710
LITHGOW LA101 (In a laminated or timber stock)
No mods. required for any of these. I have a couple of each brand and all are about as good as it gets in mass produced rim fires - Just comes down to which style appeals to you most.