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Post by marksman » 05 Aug 2018, 4:06 pm

bigfellascott wrote:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=58xKnZq-1sM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eVGEyye3i7o

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WnmI9eFzO9A


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Post by Daddybang » 05 Aug 2018, 4:21 pm

Gaznazdiak wrote:Unfortunately we have a 2 party dictatorship system that has sold us out to vested interests and overseas multinationals

Instead of selling themselves to the first bidder, Norway started a national oil company to develop their North Sea oil deposits and now has a soveriegn wealth fund of over a $1trillion, that on its own made them $131billion in profit last year.
Australia on the other hand is on track to get the second lowest national return for our minerals in the world

https://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal ... 4z2uv.html


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Post by Gaznazdiak » 05 Aug 2018, 4:42 pm

marksman wrote:
bigfellascott wrote:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=58xKnZq-1sM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eVGEyye3i7o

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WnmI9eFzO9A


the truth is sometimes very hard to watch


And sometimes it's hard to distinguish from propaganda.

Happen to notice the logo in the top right hand corner of the first clip?

NSF with that emblem stands for the National Socialist Front, a now defunct Swedish Neo-Nazi group.
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Post by Sergeant Hartman » 05 Aug 2018, 5:00 pm

I think the issue is that white ppl are being oppressed in australia. Well that's what I read in another forum. Also how Jews are part of the opressive problem.
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Post by marksman » 06 Aug 2018, 9:06 am

Gaznazdiak wrote:
marksman wrote:
bigfellascott wrote:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=58xKnZq-1sM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eVGEyye3i7o

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WnmI9eFzO9A


the truth is sometimes very hard to watch


And sometimes it's hard to distinguish from propaganda.

Happen to notice the logo in the top right hand corner of the first clip?

NSF with that emblem stands for the National Socialist Front, a now defunct Swedish Neo-Nazi group.


but Gaz do you agree or not that what is filmed has happened? :unknown:
we also have parts of melbourne and surrounds that are not ozzie friendly that I have seen :unknown:
is that how its supposed to be :unknown:
multiculturalism worked for some but has not for all
some don't want to integrate they want to take over, re-watch the films :thumbsup:
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Post by Gaznazdiak » 06 Aug 2018, 10:55 am

marksman wrote:
Gaznazdiak wrote:
marksman wrote:
bigfellascott wrote:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=58xKnZq-1sM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eVGEyye3i7o

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WnmI9eFzO9A


the truth is sometimes very hard to watch


And sometimes it's hard to distinguish from propaganda.

Happen to notice the logo in the top right hand corner of the first clip?

NSF with that emblem stands for the National Socialist Front, a now defunct Swedish Neo-Nazi group.


but Gaz do you agree or not that what is filmed has happened? :unknown:
we also have parts of melbourne and surrounds that are not ozzie friendly that I have seen :unknown:
is that how its supposed to be :unknown:
multiculturalism worked for some but has not for all
some don't want to integrate they want to take over, re-watch the films :thumbsup:


No mate, I'm not disputing the vision or the fact that it shows real events.
I'm not disputing the fact that there are some serious problems with allowing enclaves like Washwood in Birmingham or Marseilles in France to become established as no go zones.
I'm also not disputing the fact that Britain and Europe have a big problem with the flood of migration that is made possible by their geographic proximity to areas of conflict and their porous land borders.

What I do object to is that violent, knuckledraggers like Cottrell and his Neo-Nazi UPF take examples like these videos and try to fit them to the Australian context.

They conveniently ignore the fact that our geographical isolation makes the sort of thing that is happening in the northern hemisphere impossible here and use videos like these to sh!t stir for purely political purposes.

I just don't like extremists, Left, Right, Christian, Muslem, Vegan, right to life, environmental, I just don't like people who are so narrow minded they think they are the sole repository of unimpeachable truth.
They all appeal to the lowest common denominator and by doing so in a violent and intolerant fashion shut down any constructive options for dealing with genuine issues.

You can not debate with extremists because they are only willing to see their own very narrow points and deny anyone the right to a different opinion.

Several posters here, including myself, have stated that we believe that Australia has a genuine need for continuing, controlled migration, yet there are those who purposely conflate that with calls for "unvetted mass migration". Whether that is because they lack the intellectual subtlety to understand the difference or because they are simply racist bigots is not easily discernible on a textual forum such as this.

Yes there can be problems involved in people from widely different cultures mixing together, but trying to shut down reasoned debate by going to extremes will never be the solution.

Let's never forget where extremists take us if we let them, they have started every war in history and that is the only thing their methods lead to.

My feelings towards extremists of all kinds is best expressed by the Rage Against The Machine song "Killing in The Name", a song written to protest against the endemic institutional racism in America. My feelings are most concisely encapsulated by the final verse.


Killing In The Name https://g.co/kgs/1pTFZ2

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Post by marksman » 06 Aug 2018, 4:17 pm

fark you, I wont do what you tell me
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Post by Gaznazdiak » 06 Aug 2018, 4:23 pm

marksman wrote:fark you, I wont do what you tell me
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It's funny how music can express things so simply, eh?
Another of their's that says what I feel rather strongly:

Know Your Enemy https://g.co/kgs/9QAdR7

Best played with the base turned up and at ear-bleed volume

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Post by Stix » 06 Aug 2018, 5:59 pm

Gaznazdiak wrote:
Not to mention muddy bootprints on the toilet seat and sh!t just about everywhere but actually in the bowl.
We had some Asian laborers on a big landscaping job once that were great workers but we had to bin them because they would not accept that you sh!t in the toilet not all over it.


Here's one just for ya Gaz...!!
2018-08-06 17.28.09.jpg
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Its on every toilet door on this building site... :lol:
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Post by Gaznazdiak » 06 Aug 2018, 6:13 pm

Stix wrote:
Gaznazdiak wrote:
Not to mention muddy bootprints on the toilet seat and sh!t just about everywhere but actually in the bowl.
We had some Asian laborers on a big landscaping job once that were great workers but we had to bin them because they would not accept that you sh!t in the toilet not all over it.


Here's one just for ya Gaz...!!
2018-08-06 17.28.09.jpg

Its on every toilet door on this building site... :lol:


Ha ha haaaa,
It's about bloody time.
Nothing worse than nursing a giant grogan while bouncing around in your machine only to get to the dunny with it crowning only to find the seat splattered with used laksa.
Mate, I love diversity, but it does NOT extend to where I park my blurter.
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Post by Stix » 06 Aug 2018, 6:30 pm

Gaznazdiak wrote:
Stix wrote:
Gaznazdiak wrote:
Not to mention muddy bootprints on the toilet seat and sh!t just about everywhere but actually in the bowl.
We had some Asian laborers on a big landscaping job once that were great workers but we had to bin them because they would not accept that you sh!t in the toilet not all over it.


Here's one just for ya Gaz...!!
2018-08-06 17.28.09.jpg

Its on every toilet door on this building site... :lol:


Ha ha haaaa,
It's about bloody time.
Nothing worse than nursing a giant grogan while bouncing around in your machine only to get to the dunny with it crowning only to find the seat splattered with used laksa.
Mate, I love diversity, but it does NOT extend to where I park my blurter.
:drinks:


Ahhh :lol: :lol: :lol:
Man you have a way with words...i got cramp...!!!

I love diversity too mate, i really do...food people & cultures...but that would definately curb the love if it kept happening.

& im still laughing...
'Crowning'... :lol:
Last that happened to me i rushed past the saftey guy on the way to the dunnie & said 'call the midwife' with a little urgency in my voice...
He said s**t whats happened out there...?
I said nothin out there mate-its about to happen in here...im fully dilated, my water just broke, and its heads pokin out...eehhh...oh no i think thats an elbow...

Yea i know...too much info...but it was funny at the time...
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Post by Gaznazdiak » 06 Aug 2018, 6:53 pm

Stix wrote:
Gaznazdiak wrote:
Stix wrote:
Gaznazdiak wrote:
Not to mention muddy bootprints on the toilet seat and sh!t just about everywhere but actually in the bowl.
We had some Asian laborers on a big landscaping job once that were great workers but we had to bin them because they would not accept that you sh!t in the toilet not all over it.


Here's one just for ya Gaz...!!
2018-08-06 17.28.09.jpg

Its on every toilet door on this building site... :lol:


Ha ha haaaa,
It's about bloody time.
Nothing worse than nursing a giant grogan while bouncing around in your machine only to get to the dunny with it crowning only to find the seat splattered with used laksa.
Mate, I love diversity, but it does NOT extend to where I park my blurter.
:drinks:


Ahhh :lol: :lol: :lol:
Man you have a way with words...i got cramp...!!!

I love diversity too mate, i really do...food people & cultures...but that would definately curb the love if it kept happening.

& im still laughing...
'Crowning'... :lol:
Last that happened to me i rushed past the saftey guy on the way to the dunnie & said 'call the midwife' with a little urgency in my voice...
He said s**t whats happened out there...?
I said nothin out there mate-its about to happen in here...im fully dilated, my water just broke, and its heads pokin out...eehhh...oh no i think thats an elbow...

Yea i know...too much info...but it was funny at the time...



:lol: :lol: :lol:

I laugh so much I pee Iself, run down I leg and sting Iself.

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Post by Sergeant Hartman » 06 Aug 2018, 8:18 pm

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Post by bigfellascott » 06 Aug 2018, 9:54 pm

Gaznazdiak wrote:
Stix wrote:
Gaznazdiak wrote:
Not to mention muddy bootprints on the toilet seat and sh!t just about everywhere but actually in the bowl.
We had some Asian laborers on a big landscaping job once that were great workers but we had to bin them because they would not accept that you sh!t in the toilet not all over it.


Here's one just for ya Gaz...!!
2018-08-06 17.28.09.jpg

Its on every toilet door on this building site... :lol:


Ha ha haaaa,
It's about bloody time.
Nothing worse than nursing a giant grogan while bouncing around in your machine only to get to the dunny with it crowning only to find the seat splattered with used laksa.
Mate, I love diversity, but it does NOT extend to where I park my blurter.
:drinks:


:lol: :lol: :lol: love it. :clap:
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Post by Gaznazdiak » 07 Aug 2018, 10:02 am

Well it seems I misspoke earlier when stating that our main migration numbers come from Britain and Un Zud.

As one of my youngest rellies said to me once "You are so last century".

According to a report I read this morning, and one report from one academic doesn't mean it's incontrivertable, Australia's main intake is now skewed to Indian and Chinese.
It also indirectly states that we are forming the enclaves we really should be trying to prevent with Africans mostly in Perth, Eurasians in Sydney and Melbourne and Kiwis on the Gold Coast.

This still doesn't mean I would support a total cessation, just perhaps conditions placed on areas of settlement. If that's possible or even morally defensible.

I really hate it when I pontificate only to find I had the bovine by the testes.

Australia's population hits 25 million today. Who will the newest resident be?
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-08-07/a ... y/10077100
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Post by Gwion » 08 Aug 2018, 4:28 pm

Lifesaride wrote:
Ziad wrote:What everyone forgets isa that everyone's family were migrants. Ohh wait unless you speak English and are from English background the others are beneath your status. Do you also tell yourself you are not racist.

As I said we don't really take that many refugees considering how lucky and wealthy we are. I do agree not all immigrants or refugees work hard, many don't and are on benefits. So I am agreeing with you about that, I just think we should follow more Christian (most religions or just human) values and help the poor or the needy.

Hey I pay taxes and while I don't like the generational dole bloggers getting past of my money..... but accept it that they will get it. And while you are complaining about 24000 refugees getting dole which is about 500m if everyone was on dole....I don't see anyone complaining about how labour in Victoria wasted 1 billion to not build a road that is needed. Or how they wasting another 5billion to build another tunnel that no one wants or needs. Or how that liberals wasted 20billion dollars to build a s**t internet network that was obsolete before it was even built.

I have worked in semi government organizations and seem first hand how hundreds of thousands or millions of dollars are just wasted.

Lastly seen plenty of Italian, Greek, vietnamese, Chinese etc etc etc ppl who have been in this country for 40/50 years and they still cannot make a proper sentence in English.


I agree with a lot of what you say mate, but things are a hell of a lot different these days. In the past migrants got two parts of sweet FA, from the government on arrival. The onus was on them to find a job and make a life for themselves.

These days there is extremely generous welfare entitlements, in a lot of cases more generous than Australian citizens including pensioners, and there are certain demographics that after 5 years around 90% are still out of work as well as being very over represented in welfare fraud and crime figures.

And I can assure you, while I am a fairly right wing person, I am no racist. I hate every bludger equally and have nothing but respect for people who work hard and make a go of whatever they choose to do. Just whatever you do don’t bite the hand that feeds you, whether someone was born here, or came on a boat or a plane is irrelevant in my book.

On the subject of government wasting billions of dollars annually, I agree wholeheartedly. There needs to be accountability, none of this we have learned from... rubbish which is lapped up by the voting public. But we have krudd and Conroy to thank for the $150b nbn, Telstra quoted $40b to build it, but Labor said they could do it for $30b. A family friend was the managing director of the Australian arm of a multinational company, long story short there was an incident where a disgruntled ex employee broke in to the work place and caused a damage bill in the millions. That guy is doing a stint in the big house, but the board tapped the director on the shoulder and said, someone’s head must roll and he was made redundant. No involvement whatsoever, but it was under his watch. That is the difference between public and private enterprise.
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Actually, during past immigration/refugee influxes, immigrants were allotted jobs and accommodation on state and national infastructure projects.
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Post by bigfellascott » 09 Aug 2018, 2:06 pm

More chimp out action from the lastest imported waste of space the Gov't have let live here! :thumbsdown:

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Post by bigrich » 09 Aug 2018, 3:25 pm

nah, ya can't impose law and order or penalties on this lot, that would be racist.......... :roll:
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Post by Gaznazdiak » 09 Aug 2018, 3:51 pm

bigrich wrote:nah, ya can't impose law and order or penalties on this lot, that would be racist.......... :roll:


Race didn't have anything to do with
those riots, there were all races involved.

Oh, wait........
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Post by Lifesaride » 09 Aug 2018, 6:13 pm

Gwion wrote:
Lifesaride wrote:
Ziad wrote:What everyone forgets isa that everyone's family were migrants. Ohh wait unless you speak English and are from English background the others are beneath your status. Do you also tell yourself you are not racist.

As I said we don't really take that many refugees considering how lucky and wealthy we are. I do agree not all immigrants or refugees work hard, many don't and are on benefits. So I am agreeing with you about that, I just think we should follow more Christian (most religions or just human) values and help the poor or the needy.

Hey I pay taxes and while I don't like the generational dole bloggers getting past of my money..... but accept it that they will get it. And while you are complaining about 24000 refugees getting dole which is about 500m if everyone was on dole....I don't see anyone complaining about how labour in Victoria wasted 1 billion to not build a road that is needed. Or how they wasting another 5billion to build another tunnel that no one wants or needs. Or how that liberals wasted 20billion dollars to build a s**t internet network that was obsolete before it was even built.

I have worked in semi government organizations and seem first hand how hundreds of thousands or millions of dollars are just wasted.

Lastly seen plenty of Italian, Greek, vietnamese, Chinese etc etc etc ppl who have been in this country for 40/50 years and they still cannot make a proper sentence in English.


I agree with a lot of what you say mate, but things are a hell of a lot different these days. In the past migrants got two parts of sweet FA, from the government on arrival. The onus was on them to find a job and make a life for themselves.

These days there is extremely generous welfare entitlements, in a lot of cases more generous than Australian citizens including pensioners, and there are certain demographics that after 5 years around 90% are still out of work as well as being very over represented in welfare fraud and crime figures.

And I can assure you, while I am a fairly right wing person, I am no racist. I hate every bludger equally and have nothing but respect for people who work hard and make a go of whatever they choose to do. Just whatever you do don’t bite the hand that feeds you, whether someone was born here, or came on a boat or a plane is irrelevant in my book.

On the subject of government wasting billions of dollars annually, I agree wholeheartedly. There needs to be accountability, none of this we have learned from... rubbish which is lapped up by the voting public. But we have krudd and Conroy to thank for the $150b nbn, Telstra quoted $40b to build it, but Labor said they could do it for $30b. A family friend was the managing director of the Australian arm of a multinational company, long story short there was an incident where a disgruntled ex employee broke in to the work place and caused a damage bill in the millions. That guy is doing a stint in the big house, but the board tapped the director on the shoulder and said, someone’s head must roll and he was made redundant. No involvement whatsoever, but it was under his watch. That is the difference between public and private enterprise.
Cheers


Actually, during past immigration/refugee influxes, immigrants were allotted jobs and accommodation on state and national infastructure projects.


Exactly, and they worked their bloody rings out. These days the only work is heading off to Centrelink.
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Post by Sergeant Hartman » 09 Aug 2018, 8:36 pm

Mate be it a Sudanese or an aussie kid the law and cops are to lenient. I firmly believe that if there are no consequences for the actions then the person doesn't learn. I would blame the judiciary and politicians etc first then these kids.
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Post by bigrich » 10 Aug 2018, 5:02 am

The pollies and cops don’t act when they should, because people are real quick to play the racism card these days. If those kids were euro Ozzie kids, their would have been action. A mate of mine had trouble with a employee truck driver, soon as cops heard a Sudanese name they didn’t want to know. And ya can’t tell me they don’t realise that and use it.I’ve lived and worked with a lot of folks of different backgrounds, especially Pacific Islander, but some groups are just here for the gravy train and have no respect for this country or the already existing culture. IMHO
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Post by Daddybang » 10 Aug 2018, 7:13 am

Ziad wrote:. I would blame the judiciary and politicians etc first then these kids.


Blame everyone but the little mongrels committing the crimes.. Yep that's worked well so far. :unknown: :drinks:
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Post by bigrich » 10 Aug 2018, 9:07 am

Daddybang wrote:
Ziad wrote:. I would blame the judiciary and politicians etc first then these kids.


Blame everyone but the little mongrels committing the crimes.. Yep that's worked well so far. :unknown: :drinks:
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Post by Member-Deleted » 10 Aug 2018, 7:26 pm

In my day if you played up like those young idiots you had your arse broken by a polished number 10 boot which was connected to a leg with a uniform
belonging to her majesty
Today they only get their arse and nose wiped and told not to do it again so the chance of them reoffending is high because there's no punishment for
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I think too much is put into revenue raising rather than fixing the problems associated with gangs and crime
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Post by Sergeant Hartman » 10 Aug 2018, 7:55 pm

That's what I meant daddy.... probably you didn't read my full post.

If a kid knows he can get away with murder..he will. If these kids knew if they run riot that they will end up in a divvy van be locked up without pizza and movie nights. Thei might think twice
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Post by bigfellascott » 11 Aug 2018, 3:22 am

All the diff Govt's we've had over the years are to blame for the BS we see happening today, gradually but surely discipline and respect have been whittled down to the wafer-thin example of it we have today, there is no respect for authority, today its about look at me look at me aren't I pretty and special.

Just have a look at the trash passed off as "Reality" TV - it's so far removed from reality it's a bloody joke calling it Reality. The judicial system is a joke, there's no discipline in schools like there used to be, it's all just feel good bulls**t these days where no one should ever feel sad, have a look at some of the sports today the young ones play, everyone gets a trophy even if you come last.

Another weird and wonderful thing is this non binary BS - that crap will only ever get worse and lead to nothing but trouble down the track.
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Post by bigrich » 11 Aug 2018, 6:47 am

bigfellascott wrote:All the diff Govt's we've had over the years are to blame for the BS we see happening today, gradually but surely discipline and respect have been whittled down to the wafer-thin example of it we have today, there is no respect for authority, today its about look at me look at me aren't I pretty and special.

Just have a look at the trash passed off as "Reality" TV - it's so far removed from reality it's a bloody joke calling it Reality. The judicial system is a joke, there's no discipline in schools like there used to be, it's all just feel good bulls**t these days where no one should ever feel sad, have a look at some of the sports today the young ones play, everyone gets a trophy even if you come last.

Another weird and wonderful thing is this non binary BS - that crap will only ever get worse and lead to nothing but trouble down the track.


ya nailed it BFS :thumbsup: now all we gotta do is convince the average " I phone " addicted muppet out there to vote for a worthwhile independant/party next election to send the only message pollies understand . voting polls. me personally , i go with the conservative liberalls , auntie pauline or the Kat in the hat , bob katter. none of them are perfect i know, but on a lot of issues they represent me better than soft c#ck labor Bill, or rich uncle Mal. unless anyone thinks i should vote for sarah hanson-young :twisted: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :thumbsup:
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