Legal minimum calibre for deer in nsw?

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Re: Legal minimum calibre for deer in nsw?

Post by bigfellascott » 01 Jan 2016, 8:28 pm

Just been watching a few more vids where they rolled fallow with 250's out around 190m - 1 was a stag and the other a doe, both head shots of course.
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Re: Legal minimum calibre for deer in nsw?

Post by Chronos » 01 Jan 2016, 9:48 pm

dhv wrote:
Chronos wrote:Range finders don't know it's dark :friends:

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Did you just admit to spotlighting deer in NSW? :o


:lol: no mate, shooting roo's to fill tags in NSW. The range finder in the dark was a reply to the suggestion that I may have been over estimating the range. An illuminated range finder will reliably range targets under spotlight.

My point was if a shooter/rifle combination is capable of head shooting roo's at 200m then head shooting a fallow spiker in daylight at 50-150m could be considered humane :thumbsup:

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Exit: doesn't the restriction on spotlighting deer in nsw only in state forests/public land?
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Re: Legal minimum calibre for deer in nsw?

Post by dhv » 02 Jan 2016, 8:13 am

No mate, cant spotlight deer in NSW unless you are the landholder in which case the regulations don't apply.

I have no argument that some skilled shooters can reliably pull off headshots, and I have no argument that a headshot is humane.

My discomfort over posts such as this is that many less skilled people read it and believe it to be normal, resulting in deer running around with jaws shot off and the like.

I have personally witnessed a fallow buck carry a good hit from a 30/06 @ 100m and require a 2nd shot to put it down, so whilst they may go down MOST of the time, you should arm yourself to ensure they go down ALL the time.

It's the same with "long range hunting". Some can achieve it consistently, but for every one of those there are a dozens more where ambition exceeds ability.

As a hunter (as opposed to a shooter) the whole point is to get closer. The stalk is more important than the shot.
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Re: Legal minimum calibre for deer in nsw?

Post by bigfellascott » 02 Jan 2016, 9:15 am

dhv wrote:No mate, cant spotlight deer in NSW unless you are the landholder in which case the regulations don't apply.

I have no argument that some skilled shooters can reliably pull off headshots, and I have no argument that a headshot is humane.

My discomfort over posts such as this is that many less skilled people read it and believe it to be normal, resulting in deer running around with jaws shot off and the like.

I have personally witnessed a fallow buck carry a good hit from a 30/06 @ 100m and require a 2nd shot to put it down, so whilst they may go down MOST of the time, you should arm yourself to ensure they go down ALL the time.

It's the same with "long range hunting". Some can achieve it consistently, but for every one of those there are a dozens more where ambition exceeds ability.

As a hunter (as opposed to a shooter) the whole point is to get closer. The stalk is more important than the shot.


As Clint says "A mans gots to know his limitations" if you are new to something I'd suggest you learn as much about it before attempting to do it, I'd suggest the reason the Fallow didn't go down after being hit with a 30/06 had more to do with being over gunned using a heavy pill that's designed to penetrate heavy solid animals and possible poor shot placement, as for the stalk being more important that the shot, well not so sure about that side of it, end of the day good shot placement will see the animal put down humanely a poor shot placement will often result in an injured/lost animal regardless of the cal used. :thumbsup:

Shot placement is key to successfully and humanely dispatching any animal and I guess that comes from practice and a good understanding of ones equipment and their skill level. :thumbsup: Sadly many unskilled hunters just aim for the biggest part of the body to compensate for their lack of skills in the belief that it will still kill the animal, often that is not the case sadly.
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Re: Legal minimum calibre for deer in nsw?

Post by David Brown » 02 Jan 2016, 11:42 pm

I head shoot fallow with a .223 and it works very well.

Why there are laws in other places is beyond me.
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Re: Legal minimum calibre for deer in nsw?

Post by Wobble » 04 Jan 2016, 10:11 am

David Brown wrote:Why there are laws in other places is beyond me.


QLD had a few gems of it's own last time I checked :lol:
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Re: Legal minimum calibre for deer in nsw?

Post by Geoben » 12 Aug 2018, 10:46 am

6.5 x 55 mm works exceptionally well on big deer too. Funny thing is, it was developed around the same time as the .303, 30-06, and 7x 57mm Mauser rounds, its the same vintage of military round. Of all these rounds it has the highest BC of all of them.
Now if the minimum of .270 is applied, then this calibre is illegal to use in Victoria, as it comes in at .264. However with the high BC, this round at an equivalent weight of projectile, will make the longest wound channel. A .308, the shortest but widest. At distance, over 430m, the 6.5 x 55mm retains more energy that the .308, and far better accuracvy. Not that i would take shots over that distance. I suppose they regulate minimum calibres because if they don't, there are bound to be people out there trying to shoot deer with a .22LR. Fine if its point blank in a crush. Not ideal as its running through the bush!
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