Gaznazdiak wrote:As someone who doesn't live where there are any other than farmed deer, I'm a little confused at the protection of a feral pest species.
It may be a dumbarse question, but why aren't they treated like other invasive pests?
If they were found with a dead pig in the ute they'd be praised.
Bigjobss wrote:Gaznazdiak wrote:As someone who doesn't live where there are any other than farmed deer, I'm a little confused at the protection of a feral pest species.
It may be a dumbarse question, but why aren't they treated like other invasive pests?
If they were found with a dead pig in the ute they'd be praised.
I would say these days the major issue is around the safety of spotlighting in a public space.
Bigjobss wrote:I appreciate what you are saying marksman. I am a cynical bastard and dont take generic statements at face value as they are often used to misrepresent, give me cold hard facts and specific details instead of vague defintions.
That being said I dont support the alleged poachers, they are probably guilty and I want to know more about what happened.
Gwion wrote:If you read the linked fact sheet, you can have a 'spotlight' in or on a vehicle as long as it is not in use. Also, a torch used for navigation is not considered a spotlight.
Gwion wrote:If you read the linked fact sheet, you can have a 'spotlight' in or on a vehicle as long as it is not in use. Also, a torch used for navigation is not considered a spotlight.
Gaznazdiak wrote:Bigjobss wrote:Gaznazdiak wrote:As someone who doesn't live where there are any other than farmed deer, I'm a little confused at the protection of a feral pest species.
It may be a dumbarse question, but why aren't they treated like other invasive pests?
If they were found with a dead pig in the ute they'd be praised.
I would say these days the major issue is around the safety of spotlighting in a public space.
Oh, OK.
It's actually the spotlighting itself that's the issue, not the deer?
So, they'd have been busted even without the deer, just the spotlight and the rifle on public land after dark?
marksman wrote:Gwion wrote:If you read the linked fact sheet, you can have a 'spotlight' in or on a vehicle as long as it is not in use. Also, a torch used for navigation is not considered a spotlight.
not if there firearm is deemed to be unsecured
Gwion wrote:marksman wrote:Gwion wrote:If you read the linked fact sheet, you can have a 'spotlight' in or on a vehicle as long as it is not in use. Also, a torch used for navigation is not considered a spotlight.
not if there firearm is deemed to be unsecured
Ok. The way i see it, if you go out you should know the law and comply. Simple as that. Ignorance is no excuse in the eyes of the law. Some guys i shoot with stir me up about being so 'to the letter' but as i tell them, it's just not worth losing everything for a little bit of laziness or ignorance.
And, in all seriousness, we all know they were in all probability illegally spotlighting in the scenario given.
Even if they weren't illegally spotlighting and got done as described, they were breaking the law, wether they think it's too onerous to comply with or not, it falls on them to ensure they comply with all relevant laws. That's what being a Law Abiding Firearms Owner means.
sungazer wrote:I didnt read the fact sheet which is pretty dumb. I was going off a leaflet that was delivered in the mail "due to living in deer habitat" some years ago when they changed the regulations at that time they quoted with the recent updates in technology and the invent of new high power LED torches that all torches were banned. They must have got some push back if it has changed.
Gwion wrote:sungazer wrote:I didnt read the fact sheet which is pretty dumb. I was going off a leaflet that was delivered in the mail "due to living in deer habitat" some years ago when they changed the regulations at that time they quoted with the recent updates in technology and the invent of new high power LED torches that all torches were banned. They must have got some push back if it has changed.
No worries, mate. But is is good to know that a legitimate hunter can easily avoid any trouble if caught out after dark by simply having rifle unloaded and ammo packed away (ie: not just in a pocket, i would assume.
NTSOG wrote:Section 126 of the Firearms Act: ''While being transported, firearms and ammunition should be kept out of sight and stored in separate receptacles that are either secured to the inside of your vehicle or in a lockable component of your vehicle; and ...''
So where does that leave those of us with no lockable 'receptacle' such as a boot: I have an old Nissan Patrol [1996] and a Subaru Impreza hatchback. My wife uses the Patrol for horse events and would not accept a fixed compartment for my rifle as she sleeps in the car at horse events. The Impreza is also out being the day-to-day family car and it would be hard to fit a ''receptacle''. I guess I will have to talk to the local Copper.
With regard to spotlights in recognised deer habitat, that also includes night vision scopes - I have been told by the local Firearms Officer. Actually where I live is not recognised deer habitat - I asked the Game Management Authority - but I would not take a risk with being caught out with my night-vision scope on Crown Land as there are still red deer all around.
Jim
marksman wrote:sorry mate but you are being corrected winton,