mickyj wrote:77 days and still waiting!
GojiraSteve wrote:They couldn't possibly be THAT slow could they?
mickyj wrote:11 and a bit weeks and still waiting...Has anyone else waited that long to have their licence application processed?
GojiraSteve wrote:mickyj wrote:11 and a bit weeks and still waiting...Has anyone else waited that long to have their licence application processed?
I'll keep ya posted on mine. but do you remember how long it took before the registry marked it as received?
Gaznazdiak wrote:Mate, that's pathetic.
Even factoring in Austpost's determination to live up to the moniker "snailmail", that would mean registry have received it and sat on it for a fortnight.
Anybody know if firearms registry is covered by any Ombudsman?
I just had a look if the NSW Ombudsman covers it, and it seems they might as they cover police, but nothing definitive.
Gaznazdiak wrote:Mate, that's pathetic.
Even factoring in Austpost's determination to live up to the moniker "snailmail", that would mean registry have received it and sat on it for a fortnight.
Anybody know if firearms registry is covered by any Ombudsman?
I just had a look if the NSW Ombudsman covers it, and it seems they might as they cover police, but nothing definitive.
JWD40 wrote:I but in their defence, in the wake of the recent John Edwards incident, the FAR has been shaken up a bit and as a result has been left short staffed. The currently slowdown hasn't specifically been a result of increased licence applications or deliberate government bureaucracy. It's that they've lost a lot of people. Or so I've been told by someone who should be in the know.
GojiraSteve wrote:In defence of the run-of-the-mill employees sure. But you could argue that the fact that they're perpetually understaffed contributed greatly to John Edwards slipping through the cracks.
And the management team "solved" that problem by LOWERING staffing levels!? Seems counter intuitive to me.
zhuk wrote:When I rang FAR last Friday it was denied that there any staff cuts had occurred at all ...but only that "lots more people are getting licences/PTAs"
JWD40 wrote:zhuk wrote:When I rang FAR last Friday it was denied that there any staff cuts had occurred at all ...but only that "lots more people are getting licences/PTAs"
I've been told, that if asked, they are to deny anything about being short staffed. They were meant to say something instead, I can't remember exactly. But it was something along the lines of "we've received an unusually high volume of applications"
I want to re-affirm that i don't know this information first hand. It's just something I've been told off someone who should know what's going on and I've taken their word for it.
Edit: just to add to this, the person i know also said there hadn't been 'staff cuts' as such. That the loss in people had been voluntary departure. They also didn't mention quantity of departure. i.e. one person, or many people. But based off the context, it sounded like it was the cause of the delays.
zhuk wrote:
I don't doubt at all that they've been instructed to give that line. But the slowdown as it seems to be is only very recent I had another PTA received on Sep 27, issued on Oct 3 and received 2 days later. Fairly fast for a paper application. So everything seems to have banked right up from the end of October onward.
JWD40 wrote:zhuk wrote:
I don't doubt at all that they've been instructed to give that line. But the slowdown as it seems to be is only very recent I had another PTA received on Sep 27, issued on Oct 3 and received 2 days later. Fairly fast for a paper application. So everything seems to have banked right up from the end of October onward.
Interesting...
When it comes to licencing, the slowdown clearly started around early July and seems to be taking twice as long as normal.
Perhaps there are two different ques ?, or maybe they were prioritising PTA's, and in the last month have stopped prioritising. I dono, at this point i'm just guessing.
When did you apply/receive your licence zhuk ? Was it this year, or you've had it for a while and just applying for PTA. (interested in getting more time frames from people, as so far there is only 3-4 on this post that have mentioned their experience with licence application.
zhuk wrote:Hey JWD, apologies if I've semi-derailed this thread on that score!
zhuk wrote:There's been a changeover of the FAR director recently as well which might have thrown a spanner in the bureaucratic works
JWD40 wrote:
Is that so! I hope they plan to finish off this new Service NSW system. I also hope that the new system is as good as it could be.
JWD40 wrote:Perhaps based off his historical AVO they should have got in contact with people who know him, to better asses his mental state. Or maybe they already did ? I'd doubt it, highly doubt it. But as i said, we don't know all the facts. And if he hadn't had an AVO from 10 years ago, he wouldn't have had any trouble in getting a gun in the first place and most likely would have committed the crime anyway.
From what I've been told, the reduction in staff was more voluntary rather than sackings. I've been told this in good faith so i don't want to say too much. But the lack of staff doesn't seem to have been anything intentional. As far as i last heard, there currently isn't a verdict about how things happened, or any planned penalty (such as deliberate delays) to applicants.
Wonky wrote:Keeping an eye out here. Just getting back in to shooting, and waiting for licence.
My application date shows 28/08/18 so hopefully we see some movement soon.