Wonky wrote:Yeah that’s right.
JWD40 wrote:Wonky wrote:Yeah that’s right.
Wonky, please come back when you have your licence. To let us know. I could be totally wrong, totally totally wrong, but i have a hunch that you'll receive your licence within the next week or so (if you haven't already). My hunch is a long shot though
Wonky wrote:JWD40 wrote:Wonky wrote:Yeah that’s right.
Wonky, please come back when you have your licence. To let us know. I could be totally wrong, totally totally wrong, but i have a hunch that you'll receive your licence within the next week or so (if you haven't already). My hunch is a long shot though
Will let you know mate. No joy yet. 3 months down now.
Gaznazdiak wrote:How long? Too bloody long.
3 months is total bullsh!t.
They are not taking that long because they are being particularly vigilant in their background checks, more and more it is looking like deliberate bureaucratic bastardry.
What we need is some sort of independent oversight of this.
I can foresee, albeit with my foil hat on, a time when these delays, particularly with renewals, will be used as an excuse for confiscation of legally owned firearms.
The lacy panty brigade say the laws are being watered down and under threat from us FFS.. This is just a misdirection tactic, in my admittedly jaundiced view of all levels of government, to cover the deliberate erosion of the ability of well meaning, law abiding firearms owners to persue their sport or hobby.
zhuk wrote:So what's suddenly gone wrong...just the new head at the top, or what? I thought the force reduction was only relatively recent, but this has been going on months?
zhuk wrote:I don't think a paper system is any kind of excuse when my licence took 6 weeks from start to finish in 2009.
Gaznazdiak wrote:G'day JWD40,
Mate, I was referring to the creeping in of things like appearance clauses being added that saw people with rifles like the Colt M2012 in possession of a quite pricey, legal in every other respect, rifle that is suddenly banned because of it's aesthetics alone, and the banning of harmless things like gelball guns, and the most ridiculous sh!t I've ever seen, nerf guns FFS.
https://www.gizmodo.com.au/2015/11/aust ... -blasters/
Like you, I'm actually in favour of any law that has a logical basis and makes the community safer, background checks that prevent violent(particularly domestic) repeat offenders from access, safe storage, registration etc.
They may be a small embuggerance but I can live with them because they have a basis in fact.
Where I do get frothing mad is stupid kneejerk BS for the sake of virtue signalling by law makers, suppressors, appearance and the suggestion that someone who is safe to own a bolt action will somehow go the full Bryant when allowed a semi-auto.
To be totally honest, it probably is just beurocratic incompetence that is slowing down the system, but when you put it alongside the above, you have to wonder, just a little.
JWD40 wrote:zhuk wrote:So what's suddenly gone wrong...just the new head at the top, or what? I thought the force reduction was only relatively recent, but this has been going on months?
Gaz pretty much hit the nail on the head. Everything when to s**t with John Edwards, and the fallout hasn't settled yet.
Even the police acknowledged that it was a domestic violence case, not specifically gun violence. But of course, heads need to role, so FAR copped it big time.
I don't think we'll see any improvement until they have fully ported the paper system over to Service NSW's electronic system. That's just my gut feeling.zhuk wrote:I don't think a paper system is any kind of excuse when my licence took 6 weeks from start to finish in 2009.
The paper system isn't an excuse, it's a reason. And it's not the reason that it's gone to s**t in the past 6 months re:Jonn Edwards.
But it certainly isn't helping things move forward. I've had to wait over 30 days on multiple occasions, simply to receive paperwork that we have to request from them. Something that would be instant if it was a online form. (I dono why we can't just print and send s**t in anyway, but i don't want to encourage that, it might take the focus off going to an online system)
Then on top of that, you wait another 4 days or so for AusPost to send the application back to them. Then FAR put the application in the 'in' tray, and it sits there for another 1-2 weeks. If it were an online form, it would immediately be entered into the system.
There for, going from a paper system to an online system would cut almost 45-50 days out of the process right from the get go.
DJCoopes wrote:is there any way to hand in the form in-person?
Gaznazdiak wrote:Where I do get frothing mad is stupid kneejerk BS for the sake of virtue signalling by law makers, suppressors, appearance and the suggestion that someone who is safe to own a bolt action will somehow go the full Bryant when allowed a semi-auto.
To be totally honest, it probably is just beurocratic incompetence that is slowing down the system, but when you put it alongside the above, you have to wonder, just a little.
zhuk wrote:DJCoopes wrote:is there any way to hand in the form in-person?
No.
And it's Murwillumbah in any case (about as close as you can get to being almost in QLD lol)
zhuk wrote:
Maybe we'll get to full online status eventually; QLD had lots of teething issues when their system came in IIRC. Although for more complex/non straightforward applications etc I don't know how this is going to be handled by Service NSW...guess I'll find out with my licence renewal next year.
mickyj wrote:112 days and referred to NSW Service thing. Unbelievable.
GojiraSteve wrote:s**t! Mines at 53 days and waiting. I guess I be waiting a while yet.
selaga wrote:Does anyone know what "Principal shooting club approval number" for SSAA(NSW) is ?