in2anity wrote:I honestly think your overthinking it - in the digital world the CM vs 7/08 vs 260 vs 308 might appear different, but in reality they will all shoot exceptionally over medium and longer ranges (if your rifle and load is tuned).. There are far bigger variables such as windage and shooter error that will make you realize the comparison of these different specifications is much less of a significant factor than you might imagine... And you have to think about the cost of running it - 308 will be far cheaper to run, whether it be handloads or factory (but especially factory). Granted the 308 might jump a bit more, but if you get a decent brake and the rifle is on the heavier side, you can still get back on target in time to see the impact for shots 300m and beyond... I dunno, personally I'd be steering clear of 260 simply due to ammo/projectile availability. The other three - take your pic. But I say all things considered, the venerable 308 is tried-and-tested - the latest projectiles really aren't far behind the leaders. I say get a nice heavy barrel on a proven action, don't skimp on your optics, and then go out and shoot. There is a long road to travel before the characteristics of the CM vs 308w become a truly relevant factor...
marksman wrote:just go for a 6mm dasher and be done with it
shoot the 100-107gr projies at 3000fps and kill heaps of paper and fallow
heres a 260 next to a 6mm dasher, the little case that could
buy a 243 in varmint config, dock the barrel to 20-22 and rechamber to 6mm dasher, jobs done
Urastus wrote:marksman wrote:just go for a 6mm dasher and be done with it
shoot the 100-107gr projies at 3000fps and kill heaps of paper and fallow
heres a 260 next to a 6mm dasher, the little case that could
buy a 243 in varmint config, dock the barrel to 20-22 and rechamber to 6mm dasher, jobs done
I can understand the addiction of speed. It really appeals to me. 3000 fps - whew! It breaks the sound barrier nearly 3 x
marksman wrote:but the 6mm dasher absolutely kills the crudmoor in every way
if you want pure precision do not buy off the rack, build it
good luck with it and I hope it turns out what you expect it to be
SCJ429 wrote:You will find 6mm is where it is at for accuracy shooting, the only place where other calibers are competitive is PRS shooting or where 6mm are not allowed.
SCJ429 wrote:You will find 6mm is where it is at for accuracy shooting, the only place where other calibers are competitive is PRS shooting or where 6mm are not allowed.
If you want to dip your toe into mid to long range accuracy shooting there is an easy way. Buy a Tikka Varmint in 223 with a 1:8 twist barrel, a second hand one is fine. Bolt a 3 inch forend adapter to the Tupperware stock and get a front rest to suit. Get some 80 Bergers and Lapua brass. Fill the case with 2208 and then marvel at your new found shooting ability out to 1000 metres.
This would mean that you need a separate hunting rifle, get the $600 Howa Marksman pointed out earlier.
Urastus wrote:I imagine I'll pick up most of my skill with the .22.
bladeracer wrote:
Oh dear, now he's going to be looking at 6mm Creedmoor as well
Stix wrote:Yea alright Blade...seriously...thats enough of that carry on...!!!
Desperately passionate & addicted shooters wallowing in copious amounts of trigger withdrawal while stuck in the burbs dont need to be hearing how much fun shooting half a brick of .22 is...ok...
Now im crying...!!!
Are you happy now...!!!
Look what you've done...!!!
bladeracer wrote:Stix wrote:Yea alright Blade...seriously...thats enough of that carry on...!!!
Desperately passionate & addicted shooters wallowing in copious amounts of trigger withdrawal while stuck in the burbs dont need to be hearing how much fun shooting half a brick of .22 is...ok...
Now im crying...!!!
Are you happy now...!!!
Look what you've done...!!!
I do feel for you Stix, and all the other shooters that are coming into a sport that has very rapidly dwindling outlets for the fun that can be gained from it.
I am not one for grandiose ideals, but if I had the wherewithal, I would absolutely love to buy a few hundred acres between Melbourne and Sydney and just leave the gate open for shooters to go and enjoy themselves any time they wanted to. I have enough faith in shooters as a whole that they would treat it with the required respect, and that they would self-govern to keep away anybody that didn't.
[color=#FF0000]Frankly, this is the sort of thing I would expect SSAA to be doing with our membership fees, creating places for us to shoot[/color]!
in2anity wrote:II dunno, personally I'd be steering clear of 260 simply due to ammo/projectile availability. The other three - take your pick...
Stix wrote:You would think so...but they will argue they are spending the money on setting up & maintaining ranges...!!
And while i admire your sentiment re shooters self monitoring it...it would just be like fisheries---always the greedy ones that care for themselves & would just ruin it...see them everywhere...
Taking undersize callop from the river..take 4 three inch long yabbies cos thats all they got....undersized bluey's off the jetties...undersize reds n whiting out of the gulfs...
So there would be the selfish ones who would shoot out a warren of ALL bunnies, & kill ALL deer & goats when numbers were down just so they get them & no one else does...
A select bunch of likeminded non-selfish compromising blokes together in a block could be the way
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TassieTiger wrote:in2anity wrote:II dunno, personally I'd be steering clear of 260 simply due to ammo/projectile availability. The other three - take your pick...
This is a confusing statement...projectile availability between 260 and 6.5 cm?? Hi
And Brass is easier to find for 260 than cm - including lapua in my neighbourhood.
TassieTiger wrote:in2anity wrote:TassieTiger wrote:in2anity wrote:II dunno, personally I'd be steering clear of 260 simply due to ammo/projectile availability. The other three - take your pick...
This is a confusing statement...projectile availability between 260 and 6.5 cm?? Hi
And Brass is easier to find for 260 than cm - including lapua in my neighbourhood.
Look TBH I don't shoot a 260 or a CM - so I'm not in a position to ague the market nuances of brass/projectile availability between these two. But the vibe I get from everywhere I shoot is the CM is becoming ever increasingly popular, whereas I don't often hear of people selling the 260 these days... especially down the track, that's gotta stand for something right? (market economy and all that) I suppose my statement was anecdotal - if the 260 is truly cheaper and more convenient to run than the CM I stand corrected
I get your trying to promote a Calibre you obviously shoot, but 264” projectiles are the same 6.5s ? And you kinda were arguing market nuances by saying 260 projectiles are hard to get.
Maybe you should have written that it was a vibe...lol
but for at least where I am located, high end 6.5 CM factory rounds are insanely difficult to obtain.