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Re: Help me to choose best rifle in .223

Post by Gaznazdiak » 06 Jan 2019, 10:46 pm

SCJ429 wrote:
What sort of groups are you getting with Roo Max? Do they shoot better than the Noslers or Bergers?


3 Roo Max @ 100m
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I discovered later that the high flyer was caused when it passed through my clothesline on the way.
I had moved it out of the way but the wind had blown it back into the trajectory but not in view in the scope.
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Below is the best Nosler group, 5 @ 100m
The flyer here was probably one of my brain injury wobbles, square is 1"

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As to group size, yes I get smaller more consistent groups when I batch both brass and pills.

The Bergers were 70gn and the only way I could get accuracy from my 9 twist was too drive them too hard giving pressure signs so I now stick to 55gn for hunting and the ~62gn ADI SS109s for plinking.
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Re: Help me to choose best rifle in .223

Post by bigrich » 07 Jan 2019, 4:44 am

Careful gaz , I don’t know if it’s legal to cull clothesline’s

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Re: Help me to choose best rifle in .223

Post by bigfellascott » 07 Jan 2019, 6:07 am

Gaznazdiak wrote:The amazing thing is though, the bullet itself didn't hit him, it hit the dirt underneath him and the force of the dirt blowing upward from the impact is what gutted him.

First time I've ever killed something I clean missed.


:lol: :lol: :lol: love it. Pretty sure I've done similar too.
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Re: Help me to choose best rifle in .223

Post by Gaznazdiak » 07 Jan 2019, 9:07 am

bigrich wrote:Careful gaz , I don’t know if it’s legal to cull clothesline’s

:lol: :lol: :thumbsup:


The vegan home appliance rights group will probably confiscate it and take it to a new home, make me use a piece of rope instead :lol: :lol: :drinks:
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Re: Help me to choose best rifle in .223

Post by Gaznazdiak » 07 Jan 2019, 9:17 am

bigfellascott wrote:
Gaznazdiak wrote:The amazing thing is though, the bullet itself didn't hit him, it hit the dirt underneath him and the force of the dirt blowing upward from the impact is what gutted him.

First time I've ever killed something I clean missed.


:lol: :lol: :lol: love it. Pretty sure I've done similar too.


Shot my own motorbike when I was a young bloke,.
I'd left it and continued where I was going of foot for noise reasons.
On the way back I took a wild shot at a running rabbit with my trusty Model 04, missed completely and thought nothing of it.
Got back to the bike, about 500m downhill and was riding home when I noticed the new hole in one side of my headlight housing.
Didn't do any damage other than just manage to punch the hole, but it stuck in my mind about how far even a .22 can go if you don't consider your downrange. :oops:
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Re: Help me to choose best rifle in .223

Post by brinny » 08 Jan 2019, 4:35 pm

Probably come in a bit late on this post...but I have a Sako 85 in 223 and have put literally thousands of rounds through it and never once has it had an ejection issue....It has a SS varmint barrel in it, not that that would make any difference....and to be honest i havent heard of anyone having dramas with them ejecting....I have been that impressed with the 85s i bought another two....Both in 204, one to rebarrel into 17 rem....Sako 85 would be my choice if considering one
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Re: Help me to choose best rifle in .223

Post by TassieTiger » 08 Jan 2019, 8:08 pm

Is this going to run 20 pages?? Is it??
Well....223 steyr is still shooting golf balls at 220 no worries at all. I’m bloody happy with it. I believe that’s the max distance for the AR scope for golf balls - I do have a Leupold 6-18/40 awaiting the return of my 30/06 and have thought about seeing just how far I can push the 223 with that scope but I don’t want to mess up what I currently have either lol
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Re: Help me to choose best rifle in .223

Post by straightshooter » 09 Jan 2019, 6:28 am

I wonder, has the original poster found his best 223 yet?
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Re: Help me to choose best rifle in .223

Post by Daddybang » 09 Jan 2019, 6:31 am

straightshooter wrote:I wonder, has the original poster found his best 223 yet?
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Yep...a .22 hornet!!!! :lol: :drinks:
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Re: Help me to choose best rifle in .223

Post by Peter988 » 09 Jan 2019, 8:25 am

I am tossing up at the moment between a CZ 527 American, Ruger 77 Hawkeye, Sauer 100 Classic or a Tikka T3x Hunter. All similarly priced. All have good reviews. Haven’t handled any so when I do, that might help with a decision. But otherwise it’s a tough choice. Decisions decisions.
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Re: Help me to choose best rifle in .223

Post by Sergeant Hartman » 09 Jan 2019, 9:22 am

Howa 223...get a decent stock for it like a boyds or grs or krg or even the new mdt one if you so inclined. Or keep the standard houge stock
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Re: Help me to choose best rifle in .223

Post by PaddyT » 09 Jan 2019, 9:33 am

Daddybang wrote:
straightshooter wrote:I wonder, has the original poster found his best 223 yet?
:unknown:


Yep...a .22 hornet!!!! :lol: :drinks:

And how long before hes back for advice on his second?
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Re: Help me to choose best rifle in .223

Post by TassieTiger » 09 Jan 2019, 4:01 pm

I heard a law was just passed ruling out 22 hornets for any game shooting? It was legal when the thread started but times change.... :sarcasm:
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Re: Help me to choose best rifle in .223

Post by Islander7 » 09 Jan 2019, 4:11 pm

TassieTiger wrote:I heard a law was just passed ruling out 22 hornets for any game shooting? It was legal when the thread started but times change.... :sarcasm:


Nice one Tiger :), then we would do another 15 pages looking for something in between .22Hornet and .223

By the way, finally bought the scope today. After all the research I decided to go with Meopta Meostar R1r 3-12 x56mm with illuminated reticle. Found one on special for just $1k. Reviews suggest that optically they are up there with the best ones, and since 99% of shooting will be done during first and last legal hour I definitely wanted to go 56mm. The next ones I truly liked were at least twice more expensive, I simply couldn't justify that much spending. After all, you guys may be right, and I'll need a budget for another gun in a couple of months :)
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Re: Help me to choose best rifle in .223

Post by Sergeant Hartman » 09 Jan 2019, 5:28 pm

Aww man i thought you had left. ... j/k
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Re: Help me to choose best rifle in .223

Post by bladeracer » 09 Jan 2019, 6:00 pm

Islander7 wrote:...you guys may be right, and I'll need a budget for another gun in a couple of months :)


I think he's hooked!!!!
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Re: Help me to choose best rifle in .223

Post by SCJ429 » 09 Jan 2019, 7:31 pm

You could ask about a 204 Ruger and end up with a 300 RUM.
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Re: Help me to choose best rifle in .223

Post by TassieTiger » 09 Jan 2019, 8:21 pm

I really want to buy a 338 lap to shoot maybe 20 shots and then sell lol
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Re: Help me to choose best rifle in .223

Post by Flyer » 09 Jan 2019, 9:11 pm

Islander7 wrote:
TassieTiger wrote:I heard a law was just passed ruling out 22 hornets for any game shooting? It was legal when the thread started but times change.... :sarcasm:


Nice one Tiger :), then we would do another 15 pages looking for something in between .22Hornet and .223

By the way, finally bought the scope today. After all the research I decided to go with Meopta Meostar R1r 3-12 x56mm with illuminated reticle. Found one on special for just $1k. Reviews suggest that optically they are up there with the best ones, and since 99% of shooting will be done during first and last legal hour I definitely wanted to go 56mm. The next ones I truly liked were at least twice more expensive, I simply couldn't justify that much spending. After all, you guys may be right, and I'll need a budget for another gun in a couple of months :)

Funny, I was just looking at that same scope here the other day: https://www.usedguns.com.au/Product.aspx?p=121489

That'll be a very bright scope. No parallax, and not too heavy at 22oz, but no lightweight, either. Undoubtedly a nice piece of glass.

Your next rifle will need to be a 22 - everyone needs a 22 - and then you'll need a decent centrefire. And then . . . :lol:
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Re: Help me to choose best rifle in .223

Post by Sergeant Hartman » 10 Jan 2019, 5:07 am

And after the 22lr....he had to start reloading to save money
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Re: Help me to choose best rifle in .223

Post by PaddyT » 10 Jan 2019, 9:14 am

yep a 22LR , knew he would succumb to the lure of a second rifle!
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Re: Help me to choose best rifle in .223

Post by bladeracer » 10 Jan 2019, 1:38 pm

Ziad wrote:And after the 22lr....he had to start reloading to save money


Yeah, reloading to save money, that old furphy :-)
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Re: Help me to choose best rifle in .223

Post by Islander7 » 10 Jan 2019, 1:38 pm

What scope rings are suitable to install a 56mm scope with 30mm tube on to Weihrauch HW 66 Production rifle? Which are the best? Are there any difference between cheap and expensive ones? Any recommendations are welcome
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Re: Help me to choose best rifle in .223

Post by bladeracer » 10 Jan 2019, 1:39 pm

SCJ429 wrote:You could ask about a 204 Ruger and end up with a 300 RUM.



Or even more likely, end up with both of those...as well as something else :-)
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Re: Help me to choose best rifle in .223

Post by Flyer » 10 Jan 2019, 2:20 pm

Islander7 wrote:What scope rings are suitable to install a 56mm scope with 30mm tube on to HW 66 Production rifle? Which are the best? Are there any difference between cheap and expensive ones? Any recommendations are welcome

Hmm, the 30mm scope does restrict your choice somewhat. Normally I'd recommend Burris Signature Rings, but they only fit 25mm scopes.

So you have Talley high rings here: https://www.talleymanufacturing.com/pro ... ail-setup/

And Warne medium rings here: https://warnescopemounts.com/product/73 ... ium-rings/

Or CZ medium rings here: https://www.winchesteraustralia.com.au/ ... -7000-01ND

Or here: https://www.cz-spare.parts/mount-cz-452 ... 30mm#tb1=2

I have Warnes on my Weihrauch, but the CZ rings look like a nice bit of kit. Both medium heights will fit the 56mm objective, but beware of different brands, as Leupold "high" rings are lower than Warne and CZ "medium" rings etc.
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Re: Help me to choose best rifle in .223

Post by duncan61 » 10 Jan 2019, 2:54 pm

56mm scope on a Hornet with a 30 mm tube that's for 270 win up to magnums.my 7mm R.E.M. Has a 52mm Leopold and it's more than enough a 40 mm nighteater in 6-8 x is Hornet size
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Re: Help me to choose best rifle in .223

Post by Sergeant Hartman » 10 Jan 2019, 6:23 pm

Hes spent the money already mate......lol

Btw just got a set of steiner rings... at 32grams each they feel like made of paper....added benefit. ....made my wallet 32grams lighter as well
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Re: Help me to choose best rifle in .223

Post by SCJ429 » 10 Jan 2019, 7:19 pm

bladeracer wrote:
SCJ429 wrote:You could ask about a 204 Ruger and end up with a 300 RUM.



Or even more likely, end up with both of those...as well as something else :-)


I wish I could have owned a 204 as my second rifle.
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Re: Help me to choose best rifle in .223

Post by Islander7 » 10 Jan 2019, 7:47 pm

Flyer wrote:
Islander7 wrote:What scope rings are suitable to install a 56mm scope with 30mm tube on to HW 66 Production rifle? Which are the best? Are there any difference between cheap and expensive ones? Any recommendations are welcome

Hmm, the 30mm scope does restrict your choice somewhat. Normally I'd recommend Burris Signature Rings, but they only fit 25mm scopes.

So you have Talley high rings here: https://www.talleymanufacturing.com/pro ... ail-setup/

And Warne medium rings here: https://warnescopemounts.com/product/73 ... ium-rings/

Or CZ medium rings here: https://www.winchesteraustralia.com.au/ ... -7000-01ND

Or here: https://www.cz-spare.parts/mount-cz-452 ... 30mm#tb1=2

I have Warnes on my Weihrauch, but the CZ rings look like a nice bit of kit. Both medium heights will fit the 56mm objective, but beware of different brands, as Leupold "high" rings are lower than Warne and CZ "medium" rings etc.


Thanks Flyer - very much appreciate all your help mate!

I'm a bit lost though, do I also need to buy ring bases separately or the rifle comes with them installed? I'm trying to find various photos of the rifle on the web but get mixed results.
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Re: Help me to choose best rifle in .223

Post by bladeracer » 10 Jan 2019, 7:48 pm

SCJ429 wrote:I wish I could have owned a 204 as my second rifle.


My second was .222Rem when I was a kid. This time around my first was the .204, but only because I had to wait for the .22LR to come from another dealer - I ordered them at the same time.
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