Gaznazdiak wrote:G'day Harry.
Depends on many factors like end use, hunting or target, price, where you live etc.
Perhaps a few more details on your plans would allow for more accurate and relevant advice.
Stix wrote:Hi Harry...
Have a read of this thread...
viewtopic.php?f=2&t=11115
(Incase the link doesnt work ts called "Help me to choose best rifle in .223"...its on the front page of active topics.) & others like it...
Would be helpful to know what you're shooting--targets/rabbits/grizzly bears/dragons/jet fighter planes...?
...but im curious to know what do you call "larger calibre"...? (As youve asked for in the title).
Is that because you are familiar shooting rimfire...? Or you want to start with a big'n cos you can...?
But from your question so far id say Howa or Tikka in 223
bigrich wrote:One of the 6.5’s would be a good choice harry. They can throw a heavy enough projectiles for most things in oz, recoil isn’t too bad and their accurate. 243 maybe ?
SCJ429 wrote:I would say a Tikka Varmint in 223 with a 1:8 twist barrel but you already have a 223. Can you use it for what you want to do?
If you want to try reloading the 223 is great, just pick up scrap brass off the floor at the range, grab some Lee RGB dies, they are only about $30, and practice sizing. Get some Vmax for hunting and perhaps a 69 grain SMK for target work.
Stix wrote:You dont like giving anything away do you Harry...?
Assuming you want to hunt deer now...?
pomemax wrote:Na do it properly 458 Lott or 458 WM best choice for a beginner shoot what ever you like never have to clean up and once your shoulder is healed you can then go Buy a .223 or .22 hornet till you learn to shoot .
Harrynsw wrote:Hi folks looking for info/opinions on an ideal calibre and rifle(if that has any bearing) for a beginner to start reloading, and what sort of money am I looking at to begin.
Just throwing the idea around in my head...
Thanks
Harrynsw wrote:Stix wrote:Hi Harry...
Have a read of this thread...
viewtopic.php?f=2&t=11115
(Incase the link doesnt work ts called "Help me to choose best rifle in .223"...its on the front page of active topics.) & others like it...
Would be helpful to know what you're shooting--targets/rabbits/grizzly bears/dragons/jet fighter planes...?
...but im curious to know what do you call "larger calibre"...? (As youve asked for in the title).
Is that because you are familiar shooting rimfire...? Or you want to start with a big'n cos you can...?
But from your question so far id say Howa or Tikka in 223
Iv been following this thread...
Just bought a Sauer 100 xt in 223
Harrynsw wrote:SCJ429 wrote:I would say a Tikka Varmint in 223 with a 1:8 twist barrel but you already have a 223. Can you use it for what you want to do?
If you want to try reloading the 223 is great, just pick up scrap brass off the floor at the range, grab some Lee RGB dies, they are only about $30, and practice sizing. Get some Vmax for hunting and perhaps a 69 grain SMK for target work.
Hmmmm
Harrynsw wrote:bigrich wrote:One of the 6.5’s would be a good choice harry. They can throw a heavy enough projectiles for most things in oz, recoil isn’t too bad and their accurate. 243 maybe ?
I was thinking 6.5...does that meet dpi requirements for deer?
cracker wrote:pomemax wrote:Na do it properly 458 Lott or 458 WM best choice for a beginner shoot what ever you like never have to clean up and once your shoulder is healed you can then go Buy a .223 or .22 hornet till you learn to shoot .
only reason a beginner would ever purchase a 458 win mag would be so they could have it reamed into a 458lott.
100% on the money, cheap too shoot, low recoil, practical and should be decent on anything up too large foxes/ feral dogs.
500grain solids over 80grains of ar2208 work well enough for rabbit hunting or even just abit of plinking
bigrich wrote:i could be mistaken , but in vic it's 270 , in nsw 243 is the minimum . i'm sure someone will correct me if i'm wrong. i suppose it depends on what species your hunting harry. my 6.5x55 is my all rounder . 308 is a good caliber , but i find my 6.5 is the rifle i like to shoot and hunt with over my 308 sako .
Harrynsw wrote:Stix wrote:You dont like giving anything away do you Harry...?
Assuming you want to hunt deer now...?
Sorry I'm being vague because I myself are not entirely sure which direction I'm going. Toying with idea of reloading.
Col wrote:FWIW
243 is a damn good all round calibre and heaps of reloading options. Especially if it your first centrefire. Brilliant hunting calibre except for deer (rules and regs). I personally dont know about target shooting with a 243 but I have been hunting with one for 40 years and cant complain. Been reloading 243 for over 20 years,
Col
bladeracer wrote:Harrynsw wrote:Hi folks looking for info/opinions on an ideal calibre and rifle(if that has any bearing) for a beginner to start reloading, and what sort of money am I looking at to begin.
Just throwing the idea around in my head...
Thanks
The obvious answer is .223Rem.
You can buy bullets for under 15c apiece.
Once-fired brass for under 15c apiece.
Powder charges are small. AR2206H and AR2208 are both excellent choices that also work well in many other cartridges.
It's generally very easy to get it shooting very well, even your worst loads will still be pretty accurate.
Get a rifle with an 8"-twist barrel and you can experiment with bullets from 35gn to over 80gn, all with excellent accuracy.
A Lee Breechlock Challenge Kit is a great start. Get the kit with the hand primer.
You'll also need a set of dies (Lee Collect Neck Dies are great).
A case trimmer (Lee Quick Trim Die).
A vernier to measure case and cartridge lengths.
I also recommend getting some Trailboss powder and having a play with reduced loads for additional versatility and fun.
Peter988 wrote:Harrynsw wrote:Stix wrote:Hi Harry...
Have a read of this thread...
viewtopic.php?f=2&t=11115
(Incase the link doesnt work ts called "Help me to choose best rifle in .223"...its on the front page of active topics.) & others like it...
Would be helpful to know what you're shooting--targets/rabbits/grizzly bears/dragons/jet fighter planes...?
...but im curious to know what do you call "larger calibre"...? (As youve asked for in the title).
Is that because you are familiar shooting rimfire...? Or you want to start with a big'n cos you can...?
But from your question so far id say Howa or Tikka in 223
Iv been following this thread...
Just bought a Sauer 100 xt in 223
How do you like the Sauer? Thinking of getting one myself.
pomemax wrote:Na do it properly 458 Lott or 458 WM best choice for a beginner shoot what ever you like never have to clean up and once your shoulder is healed you can then go Buy a .223 or .22 hornet till you learn to shoot .
JimTom wrote:cracker wrote:pomemax wrote:Na do it properly 458 Lott or 458 WM best choice for a beginner shoot what ever you like never have to clean up and once your shoulder is healed you can then go Buy a .223 or .22 hornet till you learn to shoot .
only reason a beginner would ever purchase a 458 win mag would be so they could have it reamed into a 458lott.
100% on the money, cheap too shoot, low recoil, practical and should be decent on anything up too large foxes/ feral dogs.
500grain solids over 80grains of ar2208 work well enough for rabbit hunting or even just abit of plinking
bigrich wrote:JimTom wrote:cracker wrote:pomemax wrote:Na do it properly 458 Lott or 458 WM best choice for a beginner shoot what ever you like never have to clean up and once your shoulder is healed you can then go Buy a .223 or .22 hornet till you learn to shoot .
only reason a beginner would ever purchase a 458 win mag would be so they could have it reamed into a 458lott.
100% on the money, cheap too shoot, low recoil, practical and should be decent on anything up too large foxes/ feral dogs.
500grain solids over 80grains of ar2208 work well enough for rabbit hunting or even just abit of plinking
you guys need to man up and get a real gun . i got a loan from my uncle ( herman the german ) a WW2 surplus 20 mm german flak gun . it comes on it's own handy trailer and has a 20 round magazine and fires 450 rounds per minute. it shoots a 1834 grain explosive anti aircraft projectile (perfect for roo culls , no clean-up required ) or for large pigs with thick shoulder sheilds , uncle herman recomends the 2282 gn anti tank round and has a range of five kilometres . it's amazing what you can find at old military auctions .
Gaznazdiak wrote:bigrich wrote:JimTom wrote:cracker wrote:pomemax wrote:Na do it properly 458 Lott or 458 WM best choice for a beginner shoot what ever you like never have to clean up and once your shoulder is healed you can then go Buy a .223 or .22 hornet till you learn to shoot .
only reason a beginner would ever purchase a 458 win mag would be so they could have it reamed into a 458lott.
100% on the money, cheap too shoot, low recoil, practical and should be decent on anything up too large foxes/ feral dogs.
500grain solids over 80grains of ar2208 work well enough for rabbit hunting or even just abit of plinking
you guys need to man up and get a real gun . i got a loan from my uncle ( herman the german ) a WW2 surplus 20 mm german flak gun . it comes on it's own handy trailer and has a 20 round magazine and fires 450 rounds per minute. it shoots a 1834 grain explosive anti aircraft projectile (perfect for roo culls , no clean-up required ) or for large pigs with thick shoulder sheilds , uncle herman recomends the 2282 gn anti tank round and has a range of five kilometres . it's amazing what you can find at old military auctions .
I've always wanted an original .55 Boys Rifle.
No particular reason other than the "FVCK YEAH" factor every time I pulled the trigger.
Ammo might be a bit hard to find in the original so maybe I'll have to settle for the later .50BMG version.