NSW new licence application how long?

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Re: NSW new licence application how long?

Post by Zeju » 26 Feb 2019, 5:44 pm

GojiraSteve wrote:
rookie wrote:So from when getting "Referred to ServiceNSW" it was:
  • +6 days to get notice
  • +1 day photo
  • +5 days receive photo licence
  • +3 days for online status to change to "VALID"
  • +1 day to allow computers to sync and allow PTA to be submitted
Cheers,
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You're batting 1000 so far Mick. My photo advice arrived yesterday (6 days later as predicted)
Done the thing at the RTA this morning so it looks like 8 or so more days before everything's fully in place.


I'm curious, did they give you a document or anything to serve as your license while you wait for your actual card? Some people say they do, some don't.
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Re: NSW new licence application how long?

Post by GojiraSteve » 26 Feb 2019, 10:02 pm

Zeju wrote:I'm curious, did they give you a document or anything to serve as your license while you wait for your actual card? Some people say they do, some don't.


Nope. Nothin' but a "should be in you mailbox in 5 to 10 working days".
Given the registry website still says "not authorised for firearms" (mind you it has only been about 5hrs since I had the photo advice processed) I'm guessing I'm still in P650 territory til the card comes in.
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Re: NSW new licence application how long?

Post by rookie » 27 Feb 2019, 8:45 am

Thanks GojiraSteve,

GojiraSteve wrote:You're batting 1000 so far Mick. My photo advice arrived yesterday (6 days later as predicted)
Done the thing at the RTA this morning so it looks like 8 or so more days before everything's fully in place.

Good to hear you blokes are progressing and FAR sound like they're getting on top of things :thumbsup: - makes it easier when you sorta know the more realistic waiting times.

It's a good feeling once you get the photo licence (5 more days 8-)) regardless of how long they make you wait for the servers to sync up afterwards ...

You can shoulder rifles at the gun store and can always hire a gun at the shooting range and get your skills up during the wait for the PTAs to come through, so it's not a bad wait.
  • At Cecil Park (SISC) you had to do a "Try and Shoot $$$" and couldn't just do a P650 with a licensed friend
  • At Silverdale, you could go with a licensed mate and shoot with just a P650
Just updating the cheat sheet - this being for (let's say) "Sydney Metro":

When status changes to "Referred to ServiceNSW":
  • +6 days to get notice
  • +1 day photo
  • +5 days receive photo licence
  • +3 days for online status to change to "VALID"
  • +1 day to allow computers to sync and allow PTA to be submitted
Submit new PTA
  • +30 days for first PTAs to be approved (Cat A and B) - I hear Cat H can be 6 weeks
  • +6 days to receive PTAs in the mail :unknown:

I'm up to the last step ... waiting :shock:
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Re: NSW new licence application how long?

Post by Mr48Volts » 01 Mar 2019, 12:47 pm

+5 days for the letter to show, waiting with 9000 other folks at the RMS now to do the photo. Friday’s at the RMS, more popular than cheap steak night at the local ;)
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Re: NSW new licence application how long?

Post by GojiraSteve » 02 Mar 2019, 9:51 am

Mr48Volts wrote:+5 days for the letter to show, waiting with 9000 other folks at the RMS now to do the photo. Friday’s at the RMS, more popular than cheap steak night at the local ;)


On ya mate, did mine Tuesday, FAR marked it as Valid yesterday. Still waiting on the card though.
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Re: NSW new licence application how long?

Post by Pyroteq » 02 Mar 2019, 9:21 pm

Definitely some good predictions here...

Along with some of you newbies, my licence now shows as VALID on the Police NSW application checking website after getting my photo taken at Service NSW on Tuesday, but I still haven't received my card in the mail.

Like someone else my status changed to VALID on Saturday morning and I had checked on Friday night around 2am, so clearly it seems they just run a weekly batch job that pushes this out to all their systems, probably runs at 3am or something like that.

Still can't apply for the PTA yet, guessing that'll be another script that runs every night or something and pushes THOSE status changes to Service NSW system.

I can't speak for Service NSW and the FAR, but if it's anything like other government departments which I'm fairly well acquainted with they're using old as s**t technology with hundreds of band-aids attached to try and keep it all functioning with their newer systems.

As for a safe, I'm still in the market for one but I assume I can't get an inspection until I actually have a firearm registered in my name so I'll have a month to find a decent deal or just save up for one from my LGS before my PTA finally clears.

EDIT - Systems are in sync 1am Sunday, so whoever said next day for computers to sync is correct. Looks like the FAR batch job goes out Saturday morning like 3AM or something, then Service NSW gets your status from a batch job that runs around midnight or something the next night.
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Re: NSW new licence application how long?

Post by rookie » 05 Mar 2019, 11:06 am

OK lads .. PTAs came through yesterday .. making our estimates:
For Sydney Metro - Cat A and B application instructions and waiting time benchmarks:

Apply online for new application via ServiceNSW (approx 6 weeks):
  • Register online for a ServiceNSW account, link to NSW Police and apply for Firearms licence
  • +10 days for FAR to receive application from ServiceNSW and to acknowledge the application *** See below
  • . . . . . . . . 28 day waiting period starts from this acknowledgement date
  • +6 days to receive acknowledgement letter from FAR and be advised of your Licence number
  • . . . . . . . . You can use this Licence number to track FAR progress (status) of your application now at:
  • . . . . . . . . https://apps.police.nsw.gov.au/FPR/licenceCheck/search.jsp
  • +22 days (of the 28 days) waiting period remaining - do some P650 shoots while you wait
  • +7 days to allow FAR to process the application and for your online status to change
  • . . . . . . . . this is typically early the following Saturday morning (3am?) after your 28 days expires
  • . . . . . . . . check that your online status changes to "Referred to ServiceNSW"
  • . . . . . . . . Your licence will be issued from this date
  • . . . . . . . . Licence will last the number of years you applied for + 3 months (grace period for renewing)

Getting Photo licence after online FAR status changes to "Referred to ServiceNSW": (approx 2 weeks)
  • +6 days to get paper notice from FAR (Murwillumbah)
  • +1 day to get to a ServiceNSW to have photo taken
  • +5 days receive photo licence from ServiceNSW (Parkes)
  • . . . . . . . . FAR online status will change to "VALID" early (3am?) on the next Saturday morning after photo is taken
  • +1 day to allow FAR/ServiceNSW computers to sync (early Sunday morning) and allow PTA to be submitted

Submit new PTA (approx 5 to 6 weeks for first PTAs):
  • +30 days for first PTAs to be approved (Cat A and B) - I hear Cat H can be 6 weeks
  • +6 days to receive PTAs in the mail

So advice for new applicants:
  • After submitting your online application (except for an emailed receipt) you will not receive any further communication until you receive your acknowledgement letter ... this limbo / waiting time is the worst .. if you don't receive the letter in 2-3 weeks, call the NSW Firearms Registry (FAR) if you like but be prepared to wait over 30 mins on-hold
  • After the 28 day waiting period expires, there's probably no need to constantly check if your application has been "Referred to ServiceNSW" - just check the Saturday morning after your 28 day waiting period expires
  • Submit your new application early in the week (on a Saturday to Monday), so when your 28 day waiting finishes, it gives the FAR the rest of the week to process the application and get it into the next overnight Friday/Saturday server update batch

***The 10 day acknowledgement time comes from the experience of the only guy I know going through a fresh application. He had some original issue with creating his ServiceNSW account (different / shorter name appears on his licence) and that needed to be sorted. Even though he did this before submitting the application, it may have caused this time to be longer than usual :unknown:

Congrats all and happy shooting :friends:
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Re: NSW new licence application how long?

Post by Mr48Volts » 06 Mar 2019, 7:49 pm

rookie wrote:OK lads .. PTAs came through yesterday .. making our estimates:
For Sydney Metro - Cat A and B application instructions and waiting time benchmarks:

Apply online for new application via ServiceNSW (approx 6 weeks):
  • Register online for a ServiceNSW account, link to NSW Police and apply for Firearms licence
  • +10 days for FAR to receive application from ServiceNSW and to acknowledge the application *** See below
  • . . . . . . . . 28 day waiting period starts from this acknowledgement date
  • +6 days to receive acknowledgement letter from FAR and be advised of your Licence number
  • . . . . . . . . You can use this Licence number to track FAR progress (status) of your application now at:
  • . . . . . . . . https://apps.police.nsw.gov.au/FPR/licenceCheck/search.jsp
  • +22 days (of the 28 days) waiting period remaining - do some P650 shoots while you wait
  • +7 days to allow FAR to process the application and for your online status to change
  • . . . . . . . . this is typically early the following Saturday morning (3am?) after your 28 days expires
  • . . . . . . . . check that your online status changes to "Referred to ServiceNSW"
  • . . . . . . . . Your licence will be issued from this date
  • . . . . . . . . Licence will last the number of years you applied for + 3 months (grace period for renewing)

Getting Photo licence after online FAR status changes to "Referred to ServiceNSW": (approx 2 weeks)
  • +6 days to get paper notice from FAR (Murwillumbah)
  • +1 day to get to a ServiceNSW to have photo taken
  • +5 days receive photo licence from ServiceNSW (Parkes)
  • . . . . . . . . FAR online status will change to "VALID" early (3am?) on the next Saturday morning after photo is taken
  • +1 day to allow FAR/ServiceNSW computers to sync (early Sunday morning) and allow PTA to be submitted

Submit new PTA (approx 5 to 6 weeks for first PTAs):
  • +30 days for first PTAs to be approved (Cat A and B) - I hear Cat H can be 6 weeks
  • +6 days to receive PTAs in the mail

So advice for new applicants:
  • After submitting your online application (except for an emailed receipt) you will not receive any further communication until you receive your acknowledgement letter ... this limbo / waiting time is the worst .. if you don't receive the letter in 2-3 weeks, call the NSW Firearms Registry (FAR) if you like but be prepared to wait over 30 mins on-hold
  • After the 28 day waiting period expires, there's probably no need to constantly check if your application has been "Referred to ServiceNSW" - just check the Saturday morning after your 28 day waiting period expires
  • Submit your new application early in the week (on a Saturday to Monday), so when your 28 day waiting finishes, it gives the FAR the rest of the week to process the application and get it into the next overnight Friday/Saturday server update batch

***The 10 day acknowledgement time comes from the experience of the only guy I know going through a fresh application. He had some original issue with creating his ServiceNSW account (different / shorter name appears on his licence) and that needed to be sorted. Even though he did this before submitting the application, it may have caused this time to be longer than usual :unknown:

Congrats all and happy shooting :friends:


I’ve work Rookie, I’m expecting my lic delivery Tom or Friday. I’ll hopefully get my PTA’s in on Sun or Mon then the final wait happens.
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Re: NSW new licence application how long?

Post by rookie » 07 Mar 2019, 10:22 am

Mr48Volts- I’m expecting my lic delivery Tom or Friday


Getting there Mr48Volts! good to hear it :thumbsup: - hopefully you've got it already and you can do a shoot with no P650 this weekend 8-)
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Re: NSW new licence application how long?

Post by Mr48Volts » 07 Mar 2019, 12:43 pm

rookie wrote:
Mr48Volts- I’m expecting my lic delivery Tom or Friday


Getting there Mr48Volts! good to hear it :thumbsup: - hopefully you've got it already and you can do a shoot with no P650 this weekend 8-)


It just showed up, now we wait for computers to sync, off to a mates property this weekend to put a bunch of hours on my new Quad bike :-) hopefully I should be able to lodge my PTA's across the weekend.
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Re: NSW new licence application how long?

Post by Zeju » 08 Mar 2019, 11:51 am

If the license updates are sent out at 3AM Saturday morning, I wonder if anyone is getting nervous / excited now that we have a rough idea of when they might get some news.
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Re: NSW new licence application how long?

Post by GojiraSteve » 08 Mar 2019, 3:33 pm

Zeju wrote:If the license updates are sent out at 3AM Saturday morning, I wonder if anyone is getting nervous / excited now that we have a rough idea of when they might get some news.


Given that my physical card has arrived. I'm just excited to be heading out to Holroyd range tonight to get behind a rifle for the first time in 9 years!!! :clap:

Less exciting is the fact that I'm back to talking myself out of checking the damn registry website every day. Only now its the phrase "PTA Application being processed by Firearms Registry" that I'm hoping will miraculously change. (even though I know full well its going nowhere for at least another three weeks) :unknown:
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Re: NSW new licence application how long?

Post by Gaznazdiak » 08 Mar 2019, 4:10 pm

G'day GS,
Mate, if you think trying to call the FAR is disheartening, I have been trying to contact Cvnterlink for the last 2 days to change some details they insist have to be updated promptly.

I sh!t you not, 87 unsuccessful attempts in 2 days. The only time I did get through was to a computer that asked for a pin I didn't have, it told me to get a pin and call back, then hung up on me.
Didn't elaborate on how, I guess I have to ring to get one, as their website asks for the same thing.
If ever there was a system specifically designed to deliberately piss away your time it's Cvnterlink.
Compared to this cock show, Firearms Registry is a paragon of efficiency.
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Re: NSW new licence application how long?

Post by Hotdog69 » 09 Mar 2019, 3:01 pm

:welcome:
GojiraSteve wrote:Does anyone have any look-in on scanning timeframes?
I sent my app forms in by snail mail 19days ago (I know, I know, should've shelled out for registered/express post) and they're still not showing as received meaning they haven't even been scanned by the mailroom yet.
They couldn't possibly be THAT slow could they?

:welcome: I applied for A/B licence on 17 of May 2018 now it’s march 2019 still waiting when I ring up licencing they just say
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Re: NSW new licence application how long?

Post by Hotdog69 » 09 Mar 2019, 3:23 pm

:drinks: to add to this and their is nothing we the people can do about it
little Johnny to our rights away in a matter of weeks for no other reason but to disarm the law abiding people
Gaznazdiak wrote:That's it in a nutshell PCH.
The rules are set up to make things as discouraging as possible and I'd bet both my plums the staff are told to drag their feet in every way possible.

Both sides want us totally disarmed but both are too duplicitous to admit it.

As seen with the Tasmanian election, they will make promises they have not the slightest intention of keeping, then blame public backlash for reneging.

They're all cunning stunts.
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Re: NSW new licence application how long?

Post by cruncher » 09 Mar 2019, 9:36 pm

For what it worth: applied on 2 Feb 2019 via service.nsw, got acknowledged on Feb 13, today (9/03) the status has changed to "referred for the issue". TBH I did have the A/B before several years ago but got it to lapse going overseas, maybe this has something to do with the speed. I'd say its a pretty good job for the FAR and police.
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Re: NSW new licence application how long?

Post by Mr48Volts » 10 Mar 2019, 11:08 am

FAR/RMS updated this morning, lodged my PTA’s online this morning. Now the final wait begins.
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Re: NSW new licence application how long?

Post by lionet » 15 Mar 2019, 3:23 pm

If you haven't heard, there's a massive shooting in Christchurch. I don't know if this event will trigger any further delay. It's a crazy world as it is now. I'm 2 and a half weeks into my PTA application. Will keep you posted.

RIP to the fallen.
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