Adler vs Alpharms Lever action.

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Adler vs Alpharms Lever action.

Post by fishburgr » 08 Apr 2019, 7:17 pm

Hi folks,
Just got my PTA back for a lever gun. I just want one of the cheap ones. I can find plenty of info on the Adler A1110 but can't find anything on the Alpharms LX20/28 models.

Does anyone have any experience with the Alpharms and how it compares to the Adler?

Mainly concerned with reliability and ease of use.

Thanks.
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Post by Wombat » 09 Apr 2019, 7:27 pm

It seems that the straight pulls are the better choice now. I'm happy enough with my Adler, easily cycled on the shoulder while a sight picture is maintained.
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Post by Sus_scrofa » 09 Apr 2019, 8:08 pm

Adler have the best warranty out of all the lever actions from new I reakon. I don't buy guns off small time back yard importers. Just my 2 cents .
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Post by AZZA'S HJ47 » 09 Apr 2019, 8:57 pm

Recently picked up a adler. Few problems here and there but its like everything else. I have no concerns with mine and for the price they are hard to go past and the warranty ismuch better than the others
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Post by fishburgr » 10 Apr 2019, 4:04 am

Yeah you guys have confirmed what the dealer said when I called today. He said Adler over Alpharms easily but would go the Dickinson T1000 straight pull over both of them.

Unfortunately the PTA is already at the dealers for a cat b lever and don't really want to go thru the fuss of sending it back at this point.

Also the Adler's a few hundred cheaper than the Dickinson which certainly helps.
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Post by Patriot » 10 Apr 2019, 4:33 pm

Have 2 mates who have an Adler and Alphaarms, would definitely go Adler, but if your looking at straight pull I would go Impala Plus, best Turkish shotgun on the Australian market.
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Post by Jon79 » 11 Apr 2019, 9:47 am

if you go the adler avoid cartridges that have the longer brass, it can be a pain in the arse for jamming...…..well in mine anyway
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Post by fishburgr » 11 Apr 2019, 3:30 pm

Yeah I ended up getting the Adler yesterday. Jon79, this is my first shotgun, what am I looking for with "the longer brass", is it something that will be marked on the box?

I think the ones I got are Winchester.
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Post by Jon79 » 11 Apr 2019, 3:49 pm

fishburgr wrote:Yeah I ended up getting the Adler yesterday. Jon79, this is my first shotgun, what am I looking for with "the longer brass", is it something that will be marked on the box?

I think the ones I got are Winchester.


In the pic here the black cartridge will eject no probs at all yet the green ones with the slightly taller brass will jam every time
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Post by fishburgr » 11 Apr 2019, 11:20 pm

Thanks for the pic Jon. I got The Winchester Bushmaster small game shells which look like the ones on the left and should be good.
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Post by Wombat » 12 Apr 2019, 6:44 pm

My Adler has managed everything I've put through it. Maybe some are more fussy than others. Perhaps buy a box of high brass and see if it causes you problems? No point in limiting your choices until you know how yours handles them.
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Post by cracker » 12 Apr 2019, 8:52 pm

Jon79 wrote:if you go the adler avoid cartridges that have the longer brass, it can be a pain in the arse for jamming...…..well in mine anyway

mine didnt like old bird shot my old man had lying around, since using it abit no issues.
high brass, 3" slugs loves it all... actually runs really well.
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Post by TassieTiger » 29 Apr 2019, 9:22 pm

Am currently in exactly the same position - wanted a fast follow up 12g.
Already have a dedicated u/o for clays but wanted more capacity and fast action.
Considered a pump but started to get too messy so I now have the cat B PTA sitting here for a 12g multi shot.

I like the emerald and the Adler - I’ve not handled a straight pull as yet, are they as fast as a lever to chamber a round?
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Post by aimz » 06 May 2019, 4:30 pm

well i was recently at my lgs dropping off one of the shotguns for repairs. a guy there was buying a adler 20in black, and whilst he was cycling the action and getting a feel of it i asked the bloke serving him what he thought of the adlers. he didnt really want to say much, just that they werent selling as many due to the straight pulls on the market now.... so that wasnt helpful.

another guy that worked there said that he would buy an SHS straight pull over the lever shotguns.

from what ive seen i think the adler is the pick for the levers, and SHS for the straight pulls. although i havent heard anything bad about the impala or the dickinson.
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Post by TassieTiger » 10 May 2019, 8:59 pm

aimz wrote:well i was recently at my lgs dropping off one of the shotguns for repairs. a guy there was buying a adler 20in black, and whilst he was cycling the action and getting a feel of it i asked the bloke serving him what he thought of the adlers. he didnt really want to say much, just that they werent selling as many due to the straight pulls on the market now.... so that wasnt helpful.

another guy that worked there said that he would buy an SHS straight pull over the lever shotguns.

from what ive seen i think the adler is the pick for the levers, and SHS for the straight pulls. although i havent heard anything bad about the impala or the dickinson.


Although I was leaning towards a pardus, I accidentally purchased an Adler today..,can’t wait to receive in 7 days...
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Post by AZZA'S HJ47 » 10 May 2019, 10:46 pm

I just put a ignition engineering slick kit through my addler and love it even more now. Completely diffrent gun cycles with one finger i also polished the rough bits i could see well worth the money.
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Post by TassieTiger » 11 May 2019, 3:47 pm

Heard good things about those kits - how much do they sell for?
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Post by AZZA'S HJ47 » 11 May 2019, 6:46 pm

Think it was about 90 from memory
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Post by aimz » 12 May 2019, 5:24 am

TassieTiger wrote:Although I was leaning towards a pardus, I accidentally purchased an Adler today..,can’t wait to receive in 7 days...


been a while since i looked into the pardus, i watched all the vids and reviews, it seemed to cycle better out of the box but had ejection issues (IIRC).

but yeah an adler with a slick kit and low brass seems to work allright.
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Post by AZZA'S HJ47 » 12 May 2019, 2:12 pm

One of my local gun shops has a pardus and cant sell it due to the fact he cant say anthing postive about them. I know of a few people that have had a fair few issues with the firing pin bending send it back for repairs and 3 shots later the firing pin bent the other way. I know adlers have their issues but from what ive seen and read they have there flaws.
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Post by TassieTiger » 13 May 2019, 9:55 am

Main reason for looking at the pardus was that the action did not move the entire trigger system thus was a fair bit lighter to cycle...but the adler slick kits look to resovle that anyway.
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Post by ThumbNT » 14 May 2019, 4:31 pm

TassieTiger wrote:Main reason for looking at the pardus was that the action did not move the entire trigger system thus was a fair bit lighter to cycle...but the adler slick kits look to resovle that anyway.


Pardus owner

Dont get one. My experience was great at the start with almost no problems

As time went on the gun has started to fall apart and i'm almost certain the lever is going to snap. The soft alloy metal is not durable at all.

If only a decent brand made a lever action shotty....or if pumps we're in the some category as levers (which they should be) then we could get something from a reputable brand.
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Post by TassieTiger » 31 May 2019, 10:03 am

TassieTiger wrote:Main reason for looking at the pardus was that the action did not move the entire trigger system thus was a fair bit lighter to cycle...but the adler slick kits look to resovle that anyway.


Gotta love buying second hand guns, sight unseen...
Not sure how the owner packed it, but I’m going to send him some extra cash to get him to send that back to me - as my 20” barrel grew to 28” in transit...so hoping cash will do same.
Going to take 5 boxes of 7.5 to range today and see what she does.
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Post by on_one_wheel » 31 May 2019, 7:57 pm

I can't speak for the Alpharms but I can say that I've given my Adler an absolute hiding and it hasn't missed a beat.

It's been used as a bullbar on the front of the quad when smashing through the brush scrub.
It's been filled with dust and dirt, washed with degreaser, hosed clean with water, blown dry and re lubed like a dirty old bike chain.
It's been used in its "rapid fire" mode to empty those pesky surplus boxes of cartridges over and over again... and after all that it's still the same high powered, rapid fire, game changing, loophole jumping, greatest threat to the nation’s gun law regimen since the Port Arthur massacre shotgun that it was when I first got it.
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