BSA CF2 222 on the way

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Re: BSA CF2 222 on the way

Post by AZZA'S HJ47 » 26 Oct 2018, 9:58 pm

bigrich wrote:i've considered 1-12 twist as well if i eventually rebarrel. i think 50-55 gn is more usefull, at the moment my 222 seems to prefer 40's. good old wet and dry, works wonders if you use it right hey :thumbsup: :drinks:


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Re: BSA CF2 222 on the way

Post by AZZA'S HJ47 » 07 Feb 2019, 9:42 pm

Look what came home with me today. She has been missed. Looks like this weekend ill be getting her squared away.
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Re: BSA CF2 222 on the way

Post by bigrich » 08 Feb 2019, 4:51 am

Good to see it’s come home mate. I’ve just got back into more load testing for my 222 Winchester, Allan did a 1-12 twist barrel for mine and the 60 v-max are showing promise. BM-2 seems to be the powder it likes since the twist rate change. Cheers
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Re: BSA CF2 222 on the way

Post by bigfellascott » 08 Feb 2019, 5:51 pm

Lovely mate, I look forward to hearing how it all goes, I'd run 50's in it if it was mine (they seem to kill that little bit better for mine) especially on goats and the like. :thumbsup:
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Re: BSA CF2 222 on the way

Post by bigrich » 10 Feb 2019, 8:57 pm

I don’t mean to hi jack azza’s post, but I thought I might put up the initial results of the 1-12 twist 222 barrel the swan boys did for me.
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Re: BSA CF2 222 on the way

Post by bigfellascott » 10 Feb 2019, 9:52 pm

Looking good BR, especially with the 60gn projies, normally the 222 likes the 50gn as a rule.
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Re: BSA CF2 222 on the way

Post by bigrich » 11 Feb 2019, 4:46 am

bigfellascott wrote:Looking good BR, especially with the 60gn projies, normally the 222 likes the 50gn as a rule.


Yeah , BFS . It still shoots 50’s well , but the 1-12 twist rate means it shoots 60’s quite well now. I’m going to try some 60 gn soft points at some stage, if they work well it should give the old 222 a lot more versatility. As for lighter loads , I ended up buying my old hornet rifle back .... :roll:

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Re: BSA CF2 222 on the way

Post by Stix » 11 Feb 2019, 10:13 am

bigrich wrote:
bigfellascott wrote:Looking good BR, especially with the 60gn projies, normally the 222 likes the 50gn as a rule.


Yeah , BFS . It still shoots 50’s well , but the 1-12 twist rate means it shoots 60’s quite well now. I’m going to try some 60 gn soft points at some stage, if they work well it should give the old 222 a lot more versatility. As for lighter loads , I ended up buying my old hornet rifle back .... :roll:

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Re: BSA CF2 222 on the way

Post by bigrich » 11 Feb 2019, 3:40 pm

Stix wrote:
bigrich wrote:
bigfellascott wrote:Looking good BR, especially with the 60gn projies, normally the 222 likes the 50gn as a rule.


Yeah , BFS . It still shoots 50’s well , but the 1-12 twist rate means it shoots 60’s quite well now. I’m going to try some 60 gn soft points at some stage, if they work well it should give the old 222 a lot more versatility. As for lighter loads , I ended up buying my old hornet rifle back .... :roll:

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Sheesh Rich...you treat your LGS like a pawn shop :o ....all you did was pay interest on a loan against the old hornet... :lol: :sarcasm:


y'know stix , i thought i was a gunaholic when actually i've got a bad case of buyagunitis :lol: yes mate, i can be impulsive at times and being a bit OCD as well doesn't help :D the guy who owns my LGS is always happy to see me, :roll: i've chopped and changed a bit, done like for like deals ( no waiting on a PTA :D ), i got rid of the krico hornet cause with a heavy target type barrel it was a pain to lug around the paddock and i didn't get the opportunities to sit and snipe at wabbits and such like i hoped. but i missed it and in hindsight shoulda kept it . i got some new plans however ........ ;) . back on topic to azza's BSA , it's peaked my interest in this brand and i've noticed one online in 22-250 :crazy: :lol:

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Re: BSA CF2 222 on the way

Post by AZZA'S HJ47 » 11 Feb 2019, 6:18 pm

bigrich wrote:
Stix wrote:
bigrich wrote:
bigfellascott wrote:Looking good BR, especially with the 60gn projies, normally the 222 likes the 50gn as a rule.


Yeah , BFS . It still shoots 50’s well , but the 1-12 twist rate means it shoots 60’s quite well now. I’m going to try some 60 gn soft points at some stage, if they work well it should give the old 222 a lot more versatility. As for lighter loads , I ended up buying my old hornet rifle back .... :roll:

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Sheesh Rich...you treat your LGS like a pawn shop :o ....all you did was pay interest on a loan against the old hornet... :lol: :sarcasm:


y'know stix , i thought i was a gunaholic when actually i've got a bad case of buyagunitis :lol: yes mate, i can be impulsive at times and being a bit OCD as well doesn't help :D the guy who owns my LGS is always happy to see me, :roll: i've chopped and changed a bit, done like for like deals ( no waiting on a PTA :D ), i got rid of the krico hornet cause with a heavy target type barrel it was a pain to lug around the paddock and i didn't get the opportunities to sit and snipe at wabbits and such like i hoped. but i missed it and in hindsight shoulda kept it . i got some new plans however ........ ;) . back on topic to azza's BSA , it's peaked my interest in this brand and i've noticed one online in 22-250 :crazy: :lol:

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Are you refering to the BSA at rebel i have had a look at it it doesnt look too bad either.
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Re: BSA CF2 222 on the way

Post by bigrich » 11 Feb 2019, 7:26 pm

yeh azza, that's the one. needs a fresh barrel straight up, but it's not bad in general condition. don't encourage me mate :lol: :lol:

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Re: BSA CF2 222 on the way

Post by AZZA'S HJ47 » 11 Feb 2019, 8:32 pm

The stock is in great shape the recievers looks the goods have thought about pivk it up myself.
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Re: BSA CF2 222 on the way

Post by Stix » 11 Feb 2019, 9:54 pm

How much is it guys...?
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Re: BSA CF2 222 on the way

Post by bigrich » 12 Feb 2019, 4:58 am

$650 stix. A bit expensive for something that needs a rebarrel, but that’s rebel for ya . The main reason I deal with them is they have the biggest in store stock on reloading supplies and tend to have lots of old collectable rifles and parts. Besides that I’ve always got good in store customer service.
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Re: BSA CF2 222 on the way

Post by Stix » 12 Feb 2019, 8:10 am

Wow...$650... :roll: are they that good...?
Thats a bit rich, rich... :lol:
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Re: BSA CF2 222 on the way

Post by bigrich » 12 Feb 2019, 8:30 am

That’s rebel’s store price, they probably have the highest store prices on second hand in Brisbane. Is a old bsa worth it ? Dunno. I’ve been told their a quality rifle, might have to check out azza’s in the flesh if I can catch him at the range one day.. . Guns in Brisbane seem to be more expensive than other regions but. South oz and WA seem to be cheaper
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Re: BSA CF2 222 on the way

Post by AZZA'S HJ47 » 13 Feb 2019, 3:53 pm

Like i said i like mine and for what its worth I'd do it agin if i had the same choice.
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Re: BSA CF2 222 on the way

Post by bigrich » 13 Feb 2019, 5:07 pm

AZZA'S HJ47 wrote:Like i said i like mine and for what its worth I'd do it agin if i had the same choice.



i saw a awesome old BSA viscount on used guns , only lasted a day. was in 7x57 . about $850 i beleive . and a sako in 264 win mag for about $1100 ! :o yup , that's sold in a day too :cry: a gun dealer in south oz was selling them

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Re: BSA CF2 222 on the way

Post by gordicans » 13 Jul 2019, 5:40 pm

Anyone know the barrel twist in the BSA .222? I bought mine new in 1975 and has the original barrel.

I've booked it in to a gunsmith for next month for a small job (one of the pins that a clip goes onto to hold the bolt slider in place has inexplicably disappeared, other than that the gun is in great condition, it's had less than 500 rounds through it, perhaps the scope could be replaced) ... wondering if a gunsmith can eyeball a barrel and determine the twist?
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Re: BSA CF2 222 on the way

Post by bigfellascott » 13 Jul 2019, 7:42 pm

1in14 is the standard for 222 Rem :thumbsup:
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Re: BSA CF2 222 on the way

Post by Wm.Traynor » 13 Jul 2019, 7:50 pm

You can DIY with a cleaning rod and a patch.
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Re: BSA CF2 222 on the way

Post by gordicans » 13 Jul 2019, 8:29 pm

Great vid on the mighty 222 from this old guru ... turns out that this caliber is his favourite "such a gentleman's gun, so much more pleasant to shoot than the .223". He also says it's more accurate
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Re: BSA CF2 222 on the way

Post by Stix » 13 Jul 2019, 10:24 pm

gordicans wrote: ... wondering if a gunsmith can eyeball a barrel and determine the twist?


Nah mate...dont get a gunsmith to tell you...
Send it to me...im a "BTI"... (barrel twist interpreter)...ill figure it out for you... :thumbsup:
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Re: BSA CF2 222 on the way

Post by gordicans » 13 Jul 2019, 11:45 pm

Stix wrote:
gordicans wrote: ... wondering if a gunsmith can eyeball a barrel and determine the twist?


Nah mate...dont get a gunsmith to tell you...
Send it to me...im a "BTI"... (barrel twist interpreter)...ill figure it out for you... :thumbsup:


I wish there was a way to hit a ''like'' button in this forum like you get in twitter. Thnx Stix.

I guess the 1:14 twist is why these things don't like anything bigger than 50gns. I bit like why the Howa 204's with the 1:12's prefer something under 40gns
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Re: BSA CF2 222 on the way

Post by AZZA'S HJ47 » 14 Jul 2019, 1:15 am

Has been a while since i saw this thread. I have a load also for 40g zmax as well as the 40 siearra bltz king thats good. I have some more to shoot tommorow hopefully find a load for 55g Sierra super roos that im happy with.
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Re: BSA CF2 222 on the way

Post by bigrich » 14 Jul 2019, 6:05 am

AZZA'S HJ47 wrote:Has been a while since i saw this thread. I have a load also for 40g zmax as well as the 40 siearra bltz king thats good. I have some more to shoot tommorow hopefully find a load for 55g Sierra super roos that im happy with.


What twist rate did you get in your 222 again azza?
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Re: BSA CF2 222 on the way

Post by Mark » 14 Jul 2019, 6:58 am

Stick with 50gr pills for the .222 its the perfect weight.
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Re: BSA CF2 222 on the way

Post by AZZA'S HJ47 » 14 Jul 2019, 10:03 am

bigrich wrote:
AZZA'S HJ47 wrote:Has been a while since i saw this thread. I have a load also for 40g zmax as well as the 40 siearra bltz king thats good. I have some more to shoot tommorow hopefully find a load for 55g Sierra super roos that im happy with.


What twist rate did you get in your 222 again azza?


1-12 seems to like almost everything ive tried in it.
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Re: BSA CF2 222 on the way

Post by gordicans » 14 Jul 2019, 7:15 pm

took the old BSA 222 to the range the other day after not firing it for a long long time. Bought it in 1975 new and it wouldn't have had any more than 500 rounds through it so the barrel should be in good nick. Ammo was stuff that I reloaded sometime last century, and using Sierra 50gn Spitzers. I had no idea how it would should but was pleasantly suprised by the results on the 100 meter targe. Next task is to tighten up what was a pretty sloppy reloading regime to improve accuracy.
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Re: BSA CF2 222 on the way

Post by bigfellascott » 14 Jul 2019, 8:05 pm

gordicans wrote:took the old BSA 222 to the range the other day after not firing it for a long long time. Bought it in 1975 new and it wouldn't have had any more than 500 rounds through it so the barrel should be in good nick. Ammo was stuff that I reloaded sometime last century, and using Sierra 50gn Spitzers. I had no idea how it would should but was pleasantly suprised by the results on the 100 meter targe. Next task is to tighten up what was a pretty sloppy reloading regime to improve accuracy.


What's the load mate?

I find 20.5gn of 2206H behind a 50gn Pill seems to shoot well in the 222. :thumbsup: 2207 also goes great as does the ol 4198. I think I've also loaded 8208 and it was the same sort of results, pretty much anything I tried in the 222 CMC Mountaineer shot well - especially behind a 50gn pill in pretty much any brand I've tried.
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