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Post by Mark » 08 Jul 2019, 10:11 am

I've recently purchased a old rifle in 6mm Remington. I'm really excited about this cartridge & how much better it could be.
Finding the components will be a challenge, that i'll gladly except !

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Re: New Journey

Post by Mark » 08 Jul 2019, 10:19 am

The 788

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Post by bladeracer » 08 Jul 2019, 10:38 am

I love the 788, my first centrefire rifle!
The only component that might be difficult to find is the brass. But you can form it from .270, .30-06, or even 7x57mm or 8x57mm.
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Re: New Journey

Post by Wm.Traynor » 08 Jul 2019, 11:56 am

Old-time gun writers used to reckon it was a better cartridge than the 243 but that was so long ago that I forget it all :oops:
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Re: New Journey

Post by bladeracer » 08 Jul 2019, 12:25 pm

Actually, brass doesn't seem to be a big problem - https://www.rebelgunworks.com.au/collections/unprimed-cases/products/winchester-reloading-brass-6mm-remington-50pk
I'm not a fan of Winchester, but the price is right.
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Post by Mark » 08 Jul 2019, 2:08 pm

Yep had a few conversation, with the guys @ Rebel. There is a alternative to winchester, nosler !
@ $ 195 per 50 in the form of 257 roberts ....................... Not that keen lol
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Post by bladeracer » 08 Jul 2019, 2:29 pm

Mark wrote:Yep had a few conversation, with the guys @ Rebel. There is a alternative to winchester, nosler !
@ $ 195 per 50 in the form of 257 roberts ....................... Not that keen lol


I would just make your own from some .270 brass if you don't like the Winchester.
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Post by GQshayne » 08 Jul 2019, 7:19 pm

Wm.Traynor wrote:Old-time gun writers used to reckon it was a better cartridge than the 243 but that was so long ago that I forget it all :oops:


My recollection is that it is so close to the .243 it doesn't matter in practical terms. A perfectly good cartridge that just missed the popularity boat.
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Post by Stix » 08 Jul 2019, 7:46 pm

Hi Mark...they look real nice...

I actually like the look of the 788's...mine has a darker stock, & after refinished it & gave the blued bits a good oil up, all the guys that like the good old timber/blued look used to come up & say how good it looked & ask what it was...(maybe they said that feeling sorry for me or just being polite...lol).

Anyway, have you refinished the stocks on them, or do you just not shoot them--they look immaculate... :thumbsup:
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Post by Mark » 08 Jul 2019, 7:55 pm

The one @ the back .222 is my culling machine, roo's & dogs ! Yes mate, i've refinished both stocks.
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Post by straightshooter » 09 Jul 2019, 8:25 am

If you want to load at or near "maximum" in a 788, and do a lot of shooting, then you will need to ensure a good source of inexpensive brass as case life won't be very long. Although the action is one of the strongest in absolute terms Remington engineers found that bolt compression in this particular rear locker was the culprit behind shortish case life.
Another issue with the 6mm Rem in some Remington rifles is a slow factory barrel twist which may restrict the range of projectile weights and shapes you can successfully use.
Another factoid is that although the 788 started out as Remington's entry level cheapie it ended up being more expensive to make than a model 700 so it was manufactured for only a few years. It was also reputed to be sensationally accurate.
I have no personal experience of a 788 but I have been occasionally tempted by cheapies appearing on used guns.
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Post by Stix » 10 Jul 2019, 12:32 pm

straightshooter wrote:If you want to load at or near "maximum" in a 788, and do a lot of shooting, then you will need to ensure a good source of inexpensive brass as case life won't be very long. Although the action is one of the strongest in absolute terms Remington engineers found that bolt compression in this particular rear locker was the culprit behind shortish case life.
Another issue with the 6mm Rem in some Remington rifles is a slow factory barrel twist which may restrict the range of projectile weights and shapes you can successfully use.
Another factoid is that although the 788 started out as Remington's entry level cheapie it ended up being more expensive to make than a model 700 so it was manufactured for only a few years. It was also reputed to be sensationally accurate.
I have no personal experience of a 788 but I have been occasionally tempted by cheapies appearing on used guns.


Get one straightshooter...!!

If one came up cheap enough & in good nik id get another...!

Id assume you'd know this, but thought id say it incase you dont...
If you get one, the other things wrong with them to look out for that i know of are...
Safety--being plastic people often bear handed them & it broke...
Bolt Handle--high pressure loads as you say gave a little excess chamber room, so tight bolt lift was common & i believe many broke the braised on bolt handle while hammering the bolt open...so try get one that hasnt been broke'ded...
And the trigger...i believe the trigger was not so great, & often over honed/worked to a 'no longer workable' state by many self confessed 'smiths' of the time...& so many are pretty crappy, & ive heard (but not experienced) some are dangerous..so get one that hopefully hasnt been fooled with.

The one i have, the trigger had been touched, but still enough left to hone in ness...& it feels every bit as good as the Tikka triggers i have, only a tad heavier...(but i know nothing of the workings)...

Id like a good one in 222...i rekon with mild loads would make a great little small game fox & bunny buster...
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Post by gunnnie » 10 Jul 2019, 9:11 pm

No "reputed" about it! Mod788's shoot better than a lot reckon they can.

I like the 788's, have three in the safes now - 222, 22-250 & custom 22PPC. many years ago I also had a 788 that started as a 222 but was re-chambered to 223. It shot like stink & loved a load of 24gns AR2206 behind a Nosler 52gn BTHP. It easily shot half MOA & would shoot 60gn Sierra HP to a point 12mm lower than the 52gn load at 100m. Stupidly sold it for a new Savage Tac 223.

Ok, from personal experience, yes the trigger can be heavy and some 'gunsmiths' will say cannot be tuned -right! I call BS on that. More like they don't know shiite from clay when it comes to triggers. I had the trigger on the 223 worked over after the bolt stop wore to the point the bolt would come out of the action as you cycled it. The gunsmith, an older fella in Casino, said the triggers were good solid units & just needed patience & care to work over. It came back crisper than a glass rod snapping & a touch over 2lb. Liked it before, after the work, loved it!

Other option is to buy a Timney.

As for the bolt handle breaking off, this was more common with the 22-250 models than any other chambering. Why, well who knows, but I surmise that most owners felt the only way to run a 250 is flat out. Push any cartridge to the limits & it quickly becomes a case of diminishing return. Was this a failing of the action/bolt design, I say no! If you stuck to factory ammo, as far as I've read, the bolt handle issue never occurred. You push the limits, expect things to happen, don't blame the gear!

Remington tried to get in on the lower priced market share, only to end up seeing increased lower sales of their premier lines; the ADL & BDL series. What I don't think they counted on was producing an enduring cult classic. Those in the know, appreciate the engineering & capability of the Model 788.

I just need to find one chambered in 7mm-08.
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Post by Mark » 23 Jul 2019, 6:07 am

Finally got the chance to shoot it on the weekend.Not before lengthening the stock, previous owner had it docked.
Could only find winchester 100gr soft points, so had nothing else to compare.
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Post by Wm.Traynor » 23 Jul 2019, 11:16 am

Your bottom group has much better elevation, which is encouraging. Could have been a bit of wind about to cause the horizontal dispersion. You look like you've got a shooter mate :thumbsup:
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Post by marksman » 23 Jul 2019, 12:51 pm

very good job on the stock, well done :thumbsup: :drinks:
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Post by gunnnie » 24 Jul 2019, 12:03 pm

Now we wait for your reloads results.
What weight projectiles are you going to use?
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Post by RoginaJack » 24 Jul 2019, 3:57 pm

Well, well, small would, Eh? I've just pick up a 788 in .222, rear sight missing, due to scope mounting, stock is light colored and doesn't have that camel hump style cheek rest.
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Post by Stix » 24 Jul 2019, 6:16 pm

RoginaJack wrote:Well, well, small would, Eh? I've just pick up a 788 in .222, rear sight missing, due to scope mounting, stock is light colored and doesn't have that camel hump style cheek rest.

Do you know its history...?
I dont recall ever seeing one without the cheek bit raised on the stock...maybe its been removed...

Mind if ask what it set you back RJ...?
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Post by duncan61 » 24 Jul 2019, 7:25 pm

:drinks: 6mm Rem has a fair bit more legs than .243.An F-class shooter I knew ran a 6mm Rem and could do 900 yards easy.I do not know anyone who has tuned up .243 for F-class but that does not mean it has not been done
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Post by Mark » 24 Jul 2019, 7:46 pm

Thanks fella's . Think i'll start with 90's & 100's, Gunnie . The .222 likes likes any shape/ design 50's, if only they had a vmax in a 90gr !
Wouldn't mind a few sierra gamechangers to try !
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Post by gunnnie » 24 Jul 2019, 8:16 pm

Try the 90's in preference mainly due to twist rate. Do you know what the twist rate is on your 6mm?
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Post by Mark » 24 Jul 2019, 9:27 pm

gunnnie wrote:Try the 90's in preference mainly due to twist rate. Do you know what the twist rate is on your 6mm?


Remington change there twist rate along with the cartridge name, at the same time to 1 in 9.
The .244 had the slower twist barrel.
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Post by duncan61 » 24 Jul 2019, 10:25 pm

Sierra MatchKing Bullets 243 Caliber, 6mm (243 Diameter) 107 Grain Hollow Point Boat Tail on a slow powder and you will be head shooting rabbits at a kilometre
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Post by RoginaJack » 25 Jul 2019, 10:51 am

Stix wrote:
RoginaJack wrote:Well, well, small would, Eh? I've just pick up a 788 in .222, rear sight missing, due to scope mounting, stock is light colored and doesn't have that camel hump style cheek rest.

Do you know its history...?
I dont recall ever seeing one without the cheek bit raised on the stock...maybe its been removed...

Mind if ask what it set you back RJ...?



Better still Stix, Here's a photo for the 788
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Don't know a great deal about it except 1 owner, fired about a thousand (?) rounds, barrel and bolt bright and
shinny etc. Stock very good only a few marks and barrel has a small blemish on it; looks like something spilled and removed blueing, it's just spotty.

PS. Stix the lack of "raised check piece" might be standard stock for the 222 and "raised" come in on 243 etc ??
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Post by Mark » 25 Jul 2019, 6:49 pm

No . My .222 has the same stock as the 6mm. There is a aftermarket stock available without the raised cheek piece ! Numrich in the USA sell them.
They use to export, but not since the current ITAR laws...Yours dosen't seem to have the bridge mount either, like most 788's
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Post by RoginaJack » 25 Jul 2019, 8:29 pm

Not sure about that Mark, I've seen a few 222 on UsedGuns that have the same stock as mine...
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Post by Mark » 25 Jul 2019, 8:59 pm

So seems they did a short run of the straight comb stocks.Not sure on the year, but interesting to know its vintage ?
Caliber/Gauge: .222 Rem. – 1967 – 1980, 1982
.223 Rem. – 1975
.22-250 Rem. – 1967
.243 Win. 1968; w/ 18 ½" barrel 1980
6mm. Rem. – 1969 – 1980
6mm. Rem. Left Hand – 1969 – 1980
7mm-08 Rem. – 1980 w/ 18 ½" barrel
.308 Win. – 1969
.308 Win. Left Hand – 1969 – 1980; w/ 18 ½" barrel 1980
.30-30 Win. – 1967 – 1970
.44 Rem. Mag. – 1967 – 1970


Serial Number Blocks:
1967 – 010001 to 068460
1968 – 6200000 to 6899999
1974 – A6000000 to A6199999
1978 – B6000000 to B6199999
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Post by RoginaJack » 25 Jul 2019, 9:06 pm

Here's a couple of shots of the action re bridge mount. I feel that the stock is an original Remington -

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thanks Mark, going by your research, it was made mid (?) 1978
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Post by Mark » 26 Jul 2019, 10:32 am

RJ I don't mind the plain stocks as long as they shoot, its fine !
My .222 was made in 1974 & the 6 mm was 1967
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