Tikka vs Howa 300 win

[Sergeant Hartman]

Yes TassieTiger... my phone has a life of it's own...I don't control it... it controls me.

Last post was supposed to be what about smk

Actually just started watching a doco on Netflix about cambridge analytica.... something I didn't know was Steve Bannon was a co-owner.... and that some political parties were spending million discount+ per day on Facebook advertising...reaffirmed that Facebook is one of the worst organisation in history

[TassieTiger]

Yes TassieTiger... my phone has a life of it's own...I don't control it... it controls me.

Last post was supposed to be what about smk

Actually just started watching a doco on Netflix about cambridge analytica.... something I didn't know was Steve Bannon was a co-owner.... and that some political parties were spending million discount+ per day on Facebook advertising...reaffirmed that Facebook is one of the worst organisation in history

Saw the preview - it’s on my list as well. I also think my phone auto correct has been getting worse past 6 months...it’s probably programmed to do it knowing apple / battery life bulldust.

[duncan61]

I have just started using facebook as my adult children do not answer the phone but respond on facebook near instantly.We do a bit of business and I maintain there vehicles etc if it was just social it would not matter.Whats wrong with facebook?????

[marksman]

IMHO you already have a good target projectile to give a crack
the 168gr zmax, amax rebranded
I suggest to fireform the cases I sent you with something (bullet) you want to waste but sight in your rifle with at 200 minimum
do a 10 shot satterly test with the 168gr zmax at 200 minimum to find a flat spot in velocity/pressure over a chrony using .5gr powder increments
then do an OCW test around the flat spot

I believe it would be a mistake to try more than one load at a time, at least one OCW test

where howa have it over the tikka is that with the tikka you cannot make any adjustment in seating depth for tuning and have to just put up with a mag oal
your mate's tikka will be doing a big jump using 165gr bullets and has to be nearly perfect in concentricity to shoot straight with tight groups
because you dont have to load so short you will be able to use more powder with less pressure and get way better velocity
with the tikka there is a problem with using vlds unless single loaded so your stuck with tangent ogives, no worries for close work
but the 300wm is meant to be able to stretch out and that's why you use secant ogives
lots of fun

[TassieTiger]

^ I’m on it. Scope should turn up next week and hoping priming tool shell holder turns up today. I have a crap load of 168’s.
Would it hurt to fire form using 125’s? As I cannot see a use for them in the future or stick to the same projectile that I intend to run?

[Stix]

Yes..!!...get a quick basic load & use the 125's to fireform cases while sniping bunnies...

[Stix]

This is almost getting exciting...!!!

Is your mate on a different forum with their backing...?
I wonder if this gonna turn into a forum vs forum shootout...?...cos this has gone way past tikka vs howa...this is personal...!!!

...i mean...looks like you've got a head/senior coach thats right into it...!!...there is also what appears to be a assistant coach & bullet scout...!!
And maybe even some confused ball boys running off for a quick hit of badmington here & there too--but hey, its all good support i guess...

What can i do...?...?...

Hey...!!...i know...!!
Ill take one for the team--ill organise the bar girls for the event shoot-off's--cant have you married blokes getting trouble...!!

Ill get BigFellaScott to organise the beer...& BigPete on security..!! (Aint no one messing with him standing at the gate with a 358 slung over his shoulder... )

Blade can help me form up for the concrete benches...(we'll build the opponents bench on a lean with spring steel legs yea... )

Head coach's missus to oversee catering...?.. ...( )

Oh...naturally it goes without saying--- Ziad to spell check the entry forms...

Anything else...?...

[TassieTiger]

Haha Fatken gold lol.

[Member-Deleted]

When do we start

[SCJ429]

^ I’m on it. Scope should turn up next week and hoping priming tool shell holder turns up today. I have a crap load of 168’s.
Would it hurt to fire form using 125’s? As I cannot see a use for them in the future or stick to the same projectile that I intend to run?

Don't be surprised if the best groups you ever shoot out of that rifle is while shooting the TNT when you fire form your brass.

[TassieTiger]

Wha? Nooo....
That’s akin to cutting my fastest laps in practice or seeing a 16 pointer with no rifle...

[Sergeant Hartman]

Hey I thought I wad the ball boy... off playing badminton

Facebook, Google, apple etc. Started off being a social tool..esp as it is free to use, but as they say there is no free lunch. So to monetize their business they sell ads. But as a seller what do you want... your ads going to the person's that it's really relevant to, if you are a lolly company you don't want the ads directed to a diabetic or a fitness fanatic.

So the Google/ Facebook collect a lot of data about us, and categorize us in different groups, I could be left leaning person, but interested in guns, don't believe in global warming.... that's three data points.... they have thousands on everyone.

Now Facebook has a newsfeed that is basically customized for everyone individually. Only Franklin and I know what's in my newsfeed.... taking newspapers/media to another level.

The TV show was about a company that used data about us to actually change our behavior, they stated in Asia/ Africa and culminated in first Brexit and lastly Trump election campaign. Used weapon grade data technology against people. And what's scary is that their technology actually worked.

The biggest question is as humans should we have data rights, just like we have basic human rights? Od these companies are allowed to collect all this information about us and sell it to anyone with the money to buy it

[Tank]

Tweak away.....is your mates rifle just a standard T3(X)?....personally I don’t think you’ll best him. ‘Varmint’ barrel or not.
Good luck.

[Bill]

Plenty of ordinary 3 shot moa tikka's out there.....

[Tank]

3 shot groups are for plebs.....
I’ll leave you guys to it your little Hoar adulation....have fun.
Photos or it never happened.

[SCJ429]

Unfortunately you can never make a sample smaller in size by increasing the number and five shot groups are always going to be the same size or bigger than a three shot group. It is hard to shoot a five shot group with a pencil thin barrel because you have to wait for it to cool between shots and there is a lot of potential for the conditions to change.

Are you doing any load testing this weekend Tassie? Get that OCW test with the TNT happening.

[bigfellascott]

Plenty of ordinary 3 shot moa tikka's out there.....

Yep i own one

[TassieTiger]

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Are you doing any load testing this weekend Tassie? Get that OCW test with the TNT happening.[/quote]

Unfortunately not - have an excavator booked for more site works for my container site and I’ve unleashed a few young ladies whom are wanting to now shoot every bloody second weekend...time to do my own things is getting less and less...

But I really need the scope and shell holder to turn up first - this week hopefully.

[Member-Deleted]

I have never shot a five shot group while load development my opinion is if you can put 3 shots in close or required groups then it will shoot consistently like that plenty good enough for hunting most of us know poi can change on some rifles due to barrel thickness and temperature of it I suppose bench competitors may shoot more as they fine tune their loads but for me 3 is plenty my 22-250 shot .3 when new and 7mm mag shoots .5, .7 and i'm happy with them both I have got better with the 7mm mag with different projectiles but have found the one I like and am going to stick with it

[Member-Deleted]

How's the 300 going Tassie? having plenty of fun with it I hope no problems so far mate ? I envy you mate i'd like to buy one but the minister for love and finances won't agree my son is still looking around for one but he doesn't get much time to do so so it may take awhile for him

[Sergeant Hartman]

All this talk of 300wm... makes me want to get a ruger 338lap.i have enough got a friend lined up to help me reload on his press/dies... someone give me sense.

[MontyShooter]

1/4 the cost of a fiddy.
Do it!

[Sergeant Hartman]

The only thing stopping me is that in 12 months there will be 20 ruger precision riddled in 338lap for sale for 2k... once people work out its expensive to shoot and rather heavy on the shoulders.

[TassieTiger]

I looked at the 338 but its exponentially more expensive for consumables, for not huge increases of ballistic performances over some of the others - unless your getting out insane distances...but I just like the sound of 338 lapua. lol.

[flutch]

yeah I had a look at that too, but anything with computer game sniper sounding calibres or cartridge designations gets extra scrutiny in WA. If I was going to get something like that here in WA I would get a .378 Weatherby or a .338 RUM or something and just load it for precision shooting.

[SCJ429]

I agree, the 338 Lapua gets a lot of scrutiny from the firearms registry but a 378 or 300/378 has no problems.

I was sitting next to a guy with a 338 Lapua who was telling me about the superior case design compared to my 300/378. I shot a couple of three inch groups at 500 and he got very quiet.

There are some nice long range bullets available now in 375 thanks to 375 Cheytac which makes the 378 Weatherby a real long range contender too.

[flutch]

yep mate, for sure, also the 338rum is so close to a lap yet to the firearm fun police its a modest hunting round not a long range monster.... so yeah would capitalise on that myself

[Sergeant Hartman]

I think a heavy high bc bullet in 300wm or 300norma would be almost as good as the 338lapua

[flutch]

I think a heavy high bc bullet in 300wm or 300norma would be almost as good as the 338lapua

correct and far cheaper and easier to get into.

[TassieTiger]

Yes - but backseat bench racing means so much to so many these days...."You only shoot a 300 ? Huh...Ive got a 338 lapua lol"

On another note - my 300wm bound bushnell elite 4-30 turned up today. Wow. Just wow. Ive predominantly got leupolds as guided by those that know more than me...but I am very, very impressed with this scope bar the weight.(which I knew about). The mag range is absolutely awesome and the fact it pulls down to 4x means 80m hunting is not out of the question. How good is this scope ? When I showed my friend whom only has VX3's and upwards - he said, not that you'd ever do it, but if you do think about selling that scope - let me know first..." that says it all too me.
So now to get the scope mounted tomorrow and some powder into the pre charged cases - still not 100% decided on projectile. Prob go with 168's Zmax first up and then the 180 boat tail hunting speers. My competitor has 100% settled on 150 SST's.
Match day is fast approaching lol.
We are going to shoot a number of diff ranges over the coming month - starting at 100m and 200m. Then out to 280m(dont ask why), then 800m and then as far as the property will safely allow...which i believe is approx 1200m - keeping a decent buffer in mind.