I would never buy a blued rifle again. Either stainless or some of the high tech coatings is the way to go.
I bought stainless after a 10 day hunt yrs ago that it rained and snowed every day. All five of us with various brands of rifles from high to low end had rust showing up by day 3. Who wants to oil their gun every night after a long day of hunting? Went stainless and I put a few coats of the drying rust preventer before I leave and I forget about it until I get home. Wouldn't ever go blued with fancy wood stock for a mountain rifle again.
TassieTiger wrote:FWIW - I’m not having a crack per se. Different ppl worry about different things - its life. If it were a $10,000 rifle then I might enquire as to what bobox is but consumer warranty would protect you regardless. If it was a $2-3k rifle?...well, basic and regular maintenance would probably prevent any mainstream / operational issues regardless of coatings...
ramshackle wrote:If you Google Bobox surface treatment, the only worthwhile hit you get on the entire internet is this thread!
>Insert Nelson Munz laugh here<
Roll right up, suckers! Put your money down on this here "Bobox surface treatment"!
ramshackle wrote:My best guess is a borate added to the molten metal.
Okay, over to the mob.
bladeracer wrote:Molten metal? You mean during smelting the iron into steel ingots for forming into bars that then become barrel blanks? That would mean you could machine the surface with a lathe and still maintain the finish? It would also mean the finish would be the same inside the bore?
SCJ429 wrote:If you add borate to molten steel it will rise to the top as a flux. You can add boron to steel alloys in order to improve corrosion resistance.
duncan61 wrote:Good to see you have it sorted
ramshackle wrote:duncan61 wrote:Good to see you have it sorted
I don't have it sorted. I have a few theories, but in time we'll see which one is correct.
ramshackle wrote:SCJ429 wrote:If you add borate to molten steel it will rise to the top as a flux. You can add boron to steel alloys in order to improve corrosion resistance.
SCJ429 wrote:Are you determined to buy the CZ or determined to understand their boron oxidising process?
SCJ429 wrote:You can also add manganese boron or nickel boron in the same manner to give your steel alloy different properties. I don't think that this is what CZ is doing and even if it was I would prefer a stainless barrel from Lithgow or Tikka which have proven resistance to corrosion if you store them with a little care.
Mattraff wrote:I spoke with a lady today from CZ at the shot show and asked if BOBOX was an applied coating. Her response was that it was a process during manufacture that is unique to CZ firearms and that if scratched the steel would not rust as bobox is not just a surface coating but is about 2mm deep. It is formed in the surface as nd within the steel structure during the heat treating process.
TassieTiger wrote:So you wouldn’t also be taking any so called improved / advanced pharmaceuticals either - as without a chemistry degree, your not going to understand the improvements.
Bill wrote:I find it very reassuring that the process CZ uses isn't just a superficial coating like blueing or cerakoting, knowing that it is atleast 2mm deep will let me sleep more easily.
What will you be buying ??
Bill wrote:LOL @S/Steel wouldnt you be worried about galling.....
Bill wrote:Ummm incorrect galling can be a problem with both CM and SS and I have seen many recent built rifles with galling issues, your claim that it is non existent is bollocks, many people on here already think you over reach, please stop confirming it.