ScottyD wrote:Just curious as to any opinions about scout rifles (i.e. the rifle developed/promoted by American Jeff Cooper)
What say you guys?
SCJ429 wrote:Wow that is some eye relief you have there. Did the rifle come with those mounts?
mickb wrote:Caveman which vortex scope is it, is that one their actual 'scout' models. I'm curious to know what the published eye relief is.
I'm looking at scopes for a lever action. The yanks have a lot of affordable options including ultralight handgun scopes in 2x20mm etc. Some have eye relief in usable ranges. Nothing affordable like that in Australia so I am trying to find the next lightest options.
bladeracer wrote:This popped up today in my YT subs.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i5rbshECK0Y
CAVEMAN wrote:Yep, picatiny mounted forward of the receiver. Meant to be a low power long eye relief scope. To allow for broad field of view and rapid target acquisition, but also with new adjustable mag scopes you can dial it in for more precise work. My rifle is nearly to his specs, i'm still learning how to properly use a ching sling to stabilize my positions. And still maintain iron sights as a backup or for low light work.
The following video gives a good brief over view of Jeff Cooper's idea, its quite an interesting and utilitarian concept. Id sum it up as one rifle to do many thing but not necessarily any one thing perfectly. A jack of all trades.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-x7N8hLI2yM
Stix wrote:Nice flooring look BR... ...Spotted Gum...?
Nice little rifle too...go smack some goats with it before you re-barrel...
CAVEMAN wrote:Could that be re barreled to 308, and does it still have stripper clip guides?
I've played with the idea of building a bespoke scout on a K98 or SMLE, converted to 308 and utilizing stripper clips. I feel that feeding by stripper clips fits perfectly in the guise of a scout rifle, by being able to carry extra shots easily without the necessary bulk or expense of magazines.
Even looked at modifying the Ruger action, but since there investment cast i don't think they would like having the rear of the receiver notched out.
bigrich wrote:Stix wrote:Nice flooring look BR... ...Spotted Gum...?
Nice little rifle too...go smack some goats with it before you re-barrel...
the floors vynal , ol' mate . it's bin a bit hard to get out for a hunt lately , all my contacts have bin real busy . it'd be overkill for goats , one of the hottest factory loads is s&b , 196 gn at almost 2600 fps . i tried PPU 175 gn loads that are quite mild so far . the peep sight on it works for me. it's fun snap shooting with it
Stix wrote:bigrich wrote:Stix wrote:Nice flooring look BR... ...Spotted Gum...?
Nice little rifle too...go smack some goats with it before you re-barrel...
the floors vynal , ol' mate . it's bin a bit hard to get out for a hunt lately , all my contacts have bin real busy . it'd be overkill for goats , one of the hottest factory loads is s&b , 196 gn at almost 2600 fps . i tried PPU 175 gn loads that are quite mild so far . the peep sight on it works for me. it's fun snap shooting with it
lol...you crack me up..so innocently missed everything i meant....!!!...
Go back & have a read...I did say "flooring look" ol'mate...!!...
It looks like a "spotted gum" look...just though being your house you might know...not that it matters... ...i just like your (Qld) Spotted Gum mate thats all...laying a deck in it as we speak... :thumbsup
As for the gun... ...If a goat is overkill for it, then go kill a rabbit with it then...i dont care... . ..but surely you gotta smack something with it before you re-barrel it...
Dont you always want to blood a rifle...? ...hell i do...!!!
Good thing i dont like rocks...id still be out there trying to hit a goat...or a bunny with my first rock...& you'd still be wondering what i was doing playing fetch with myself & one particular rock...
Just go smack something with it BR...(& i dont mean the dirty girl around the corner... )
CAVEMAN wrote:Ammo cost is what sells me on 308, I like that's it's a good price in comparison to other calibers and readily available.
A 303 or 8mm would be lovely, but ammo availability and price is what turns me away.
Tac308 wrote:I like the concept a lot, heavy fairly powerful rounds, short barrel, robust construction, 10 round capacity, reasonable accuracy at short - mid ranges and relatively cheap to feed.
Another Ruger Scout owner here, I do believe they are a tad over priced for what you get, the action on mine is like the nasty between the legs of a sloppy ol mole left in the dodgy bar at closing time. Took me ages to get the Sob the feed from both the stock MAG and the polymer versions, but after much working now 98% result. The action is clunky and will baulk if treated gently, it's a case of treat it rough, not softly, and it works. The safety is like engaging reverse in the top loader 4 speed, but again, it's more solid than it is refined.
I've shot goats, loads of deer, zillions of pigs, roo, possums, rabbits, dogs, cats, and a couple of bigger things, and it kills everything. Heavier pills can be a tad destructive on meat animals if not placed with care. Cheap to feed compared to a lot, but hold over required for longer ranges can get silly. It does push through light foliage in the scrub quite good though.
It's fired a couple of thousand rounds of 150-180gr ammo and is no less accurate than the first few up the spout, the little barrel is made from some reasonable steel. The bead blasted SS finish is still perfect, although the laminate stock is scarred from countless spotlighting, bush bashing, side by side and even a few helo jaunts.
It bangs pretty darn loud, and the muzzle flash under the light is welding flash intense. But recoil is tame which bellies the 308 impact energy at scrub ranges.
It's easy to transport and Ive flown domestically with it many times, the short hard case is a snack cruising through airports and on various transport, even buses and trains lol.
Mines got a burris illuminated Reticle 4-9 scope, Harris bipod, I fit the laser designator for crop protection duty when not using the big niteforce.
Did I mention the benefit of 308win when the dead start walking the earth Appocolypse ammo ftw.
bigrich wrote:Betcha Jeff cooper had a 303 Jungle carbine I had a scoped 308 ruger gunsite that was a compact accurate rifle . Open sights don’t work for me. I moved it on as I like old time stuff, and even though it’s practical, there was too much plastic on it for my liking. I’m packing a 8x57 Mauser “carbine” now