mickb wrote:Gents I went to the range with an older friend and his new 30-06 rifle. Hasnt shot for 20 years , previous experience was SKK's and shotguns in the day, no scopes. Didn't go well at the range for him. Started wanting to shoot at 100m until I explained we start at 50m to get the scope on to target at least, then we can do some groups and reach out. Never got past 50m though, shots all over the shop. Tough old guy but I think the recoil was knocking him about firstly. Secondly he has never shot at a bench and wasn't getting his position right. Thirdly I think he expected to be able to do it all easily and was disgruntled and not really listening to my suggestions.
Any suggestions for older blokes reducing recoil at the bench? General tips? Thoughts on recoil from a 30-06 period for shooters in their late 50's? I also havent helped an older bloke learn before, I think its actually easier with younger or brand new shooters, they tend to listen to you! I was even thinking of just grabbing the gun and zeroing it for him myself at one point.
gordicans wrote:hard to know without being there ... did he have chocks under his wheelchair wheels for the recoil? how old was he? unless he had parkinson's I can't see it being an age factor ... pretty silly thread
Sauer wrote:Lots of comments about ammo and loading etc, in reality even the most crap ammo will group reasonably at 50, but as said many times above, need more details otherwise it becomes "how long is a piece of string" having said that be aware that more shooters are more recoil sensitive than they care to admit, for some shooters what most consider a reasonably mild 30-06 is too much to handle, one of my shooting buddies is deadly with anything up to a .270 but go past that and he is all over the shop, but he admits it and recognises the issue.
Sauer wrote:bladeracer, you serious 300 at 50, yes I suppose if you fired the 06 through a 12G
bladeracer wrote:Sauer wrote:bladeracer, you serious 300 at 50, yes I suppose if you fired the 06 through a 12G
You done much work with cast bullets? Can be a bastard getting them to shoot
I'm specifically referring to my Marlin .44 Mag, but I've seen similar with other rifles. A member here recently had great difficulty trying to get his .30-06 to shoot heavy bullets, although it shot lighter bullets just fine.
Sauer wrote:bladeracer wrote:Sauer wrote:bladeracer, you serious 300 at 50, yes I suppose if you fired the 06 through a 12G
You done much work with cast bullets? Can be a bastard getting them to shoot
I'm specifically referring to my Marlin .44 Mag, but I've seen similar with other rifles. A member here recently had great difficulty trying to get his .30-06 to shoot heavy bullets, although it shot lighter bullets just fine.
Not sure mate but he wasn't talking about cast bullets or .44 mag, he was talking about a standard 30-06 and not heavy cast bullets, but rather recoil. amazing how a thread like this can be distorted so much
Sauer wrote:bladeracer, you serious 300 at 50, yes I suppose if you fired the 06 through a 12G, yes it is possible but highly unlikely based on any standard half decent rifle with standard factory ammo, but certainly not 300 at 50, if that was a result I got through a reload I would question my ability and go back to buying factory ammo, I have never ever seen a group that large and I worked in the industry for many years, also spent 15 years as a scout in ADF, now there you see some poor groups with 1st time recruits but even they didn't produce a 300mm group at 50
bigfellascott wrote:Can I ask why he chose that Cal, is it for hunting or for range work?
Stix wrote:bigfellascott wrote:Can I ask why he chose that Cal, is it for hunting or for range work?
Probably just one of those deluded boys who think the '06 makes up for their severe lack of penis...
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bigfellascott wrote:Stix wrote:bigfellascott wrote:Can I ask why he chose that Cal, is it for hunting or for range work?
Probably just one of those deluded boys who think the '06 makes up for their severe lack of penis...
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Possibly, it's certainly not a cal I'd choose to kill paper with, off hand it's fine but off a bench no thanks.