tom604 wrote:every team cheats but until smith the Aussies were above the rest,,ban for life,,make the punishment so severe that no one will risk cheating
Ziad wrote:Tbh in don't care.
It basically comes to what the society likes... they only like it if team Australia is winning. So when you are winning you go do whatever you want.
Maybe the comparison is regarding his batting and not his behaviour. But even then wether he did the crime or the crime just happened under his watch he did his time and repented/apologised.
And umm want it Australia under Greg Chappell who bowled the infamous underarm delivery. I think people now a days just like to get angry to get angry
xDom wrote:" You only have to read some of the dumb arse questions asked around here to see proof of the fact. "
Yeah, sorry about that, mate!.
PaddyT wrote:Bill, pretty right there- read up on Chapelli on his dealings with the Don- or Bill O Reilly-or Jack Fingleton-thing is this for me- why the hell as a society do we stick sportsman up on a pedestal for stuff other than their sporting ability- sure if they happen to have another successful sphere in their lives then they can be taken seriously in that too. Australians and the cricket community in particular were pretty shocked by the whole sandpaper scandal but (and i think I can say this after many years of A Grade cricket, coaching and junior rep involvement) it was on the cards. The general behaviour standards even at a junior level are pretty poor these days and one of the main reason I stopped being involved was because of the stupid, inane and downright nasty so called banter that has become all too commonplace on the field, even at a club level. Smith has been pretty repentant (and has recieved a far greater punishment than many overseas players copped for similar offences) and should just be left to play cricket- and we as a society should judge him on that and probably that alone.
Ziad wrote:True... cuz not many people can do it without help.
Plus if you notice there aren't too many real good fast bowlers... like malcom marshal, waqar unis or wasim akram. The latter two I think started the reverse swing band wagon... without sandpaper
Bill wrote:Stix I think most people have a perception of Bradman being the nice guy on and off the pitch, was he a good sportsman in his era ??? his off field persona from what i gather was a bit of a khunt especially when cricketers pushed for decent pay as the sport transitioned to the professional era
The whole Steve Smith saga has been overplayed to death, pushing the rule book has been going on since adam and eve and the penalty he payed was way out of proportion.
PaddyT wrote:Bill, pretty right there- read up on Chapelli on his dealings with the Don- or Bill O Reilly-or Jack Fingleton-thing is this for me- why the hell as a society do we stick sportsman up on a pedestal for stuff other than their sporting ability- sure if they happen to have another successful sphere in their lives then they can be taken seriously in that too. Australians and the cricket community in particular were pretty shocked by the whole sandpaper scandal but (and i think I can say this after many years of A Grade cricket, coaching and junior rep involvement) it was on the cards. The general behaviour standards even at a junior level are pretty poor these days and one of the main reason I stopped being involved was because of the stupid, inane and downright nasty so called banter that has become all too commonplace on the field, even at a club level. Smith has been pretty repentant (and has recieved a far greater punishment than many overseas players copped for similar offences) and should just be left to play cricket- and we as a society should judge him on that and probably that alone.
gordicans wrote:"Plus if you notice there aren't too many real good fast bowlers... like malcom marshal, waqar unis or wasim akram"
An old girlfriend of mine f*cked Wasim Akram in the back of a Datsun 1200 outside Selenas in the Cross ... just say'n
Ziad wrote:Tbh in don't care.
It basically comes to what the society likes... they only like it if team Australia is winning. So when you are winning you go do whatever you want.
Maybe the comparison is regarding his batting and not his behaviour. But even then wether he did the crime or the crime just happened under his watch he did his time and repented/apologised.
And umm want it Australia under Greg Chappell who bowled the infamous underarm delivery. I think people now a days just like to get angry to get angry