russell wrote:Thanks - does a pitch spacer absorb recoil??
Not really, it's more to help me with the second shot by helping with the direction the recoil is directed. ... I mentioned it because fitting a recoil pad couldn't be much different to installing a spacer.
But, I'm not sure if this might apply to you and your collarbone but this is the theory with the pitch spacer:
Say for example this is how you need to mount your shotgun to get your eye aligned down the rib (ie. a little high).
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Notice the gap between the recoil pad and shoulder? .. when you fire the gun, the stock is going to pivot upwards to fill that void (the barrel will point upwards as a consequence).
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It will take a bit of effort to get the barrel back on target in this case - and my suspicion is that the gap will cause "more" felt recoil than if there wasn't a gap.
You can mount the gun with more of a forward lean, to help fill the gap .. or do lots of push-ups
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and maybe get a curved recoil pad ... if it's not in the right place, you can get height adjusting recoil pads to help put it in the right place on your shoulder ..
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Or a cheap option, is to try and fill the gap with a pitch (wedge shaped) spacer.
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I've found it has helped me stay on target and I get many more second shots than I used to - I can also use faster cartridges (for olympic trap later on)
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russell wrote:On brands and price it seems there is a bunch of Turkish ones around the $1000 mark.
Truth be told, there's probably not much that differs them from Italian shotties at about 2 - 3 times their price as well.
Except the support you get, availability of spare parts and resale value.
A guy from an LGS once told me that really you got to step up to +$5K to be able to tell the difference and I sorta know where he is coming from with my 692.
russell wrote:I have seen online some used Miroku Mk70s with aftermarket pads fitted for around that price so maybe that's a better option.
That's a good option .. I've got quite a few mates that shoot Miroku's and I learnt on a Miroku hire gun.
bladeracer wrote:Mass of the firearm is an important factor in how much it recoils, heavier firearms recoil less and more slowly.
Sounds right - thanks for clarifying.
duncan61 wrote:you need something that points for you
russell wrote:That's the problem for me, I have only done one round of clays
See if you can afford an option with an Adjustable Comb as you can move it up/down as well as left/right .. it should help fit a gun to you (along side all the after market stuff, like the pitch spacer and adjustable recoil pads, etc).
russell wrote:I figure just get something not too dear and I can always trade it down the track
Realistically, you don't get a lot of resale value for second-hand / third-hand turkish shotties.. just bear that in mind if this is part of your plan.
If possible, hire some at your range ... try out someone elses .. try and see what works before committing ..
Otherwise, if you got something relatively decent, you would be more likely to convert the comb to be adjustable, recoil pad how you like it, etc ..
duncan61 wrote:You are about to embark on a magnificent journey in space and time where the only thing real is the next range meet and duck season
So true!
marksman wrote:another thing, dont be changing the recoil pad till after you try the gun out, it may surprise you and not need to be changed
Yep, and have a look at the numerous youtube videos regarding the installation of a recoil pad to alleviate any fears doing it yourself.
Some are supposedly out of the box replacements also, so you don't have to do a lot of sanding to get them looking right .. I assume the screw holes are pretty much in the right spot.