sungazer wrote:IMHO I still think there is an infringement or a misunderstanding of the certification at the center of all the dispute. I would put money on it come down to shooting a steel gongs with high power rifles ie more than the 1500fps.
Having on opinion or guess on a forum is not crucifying a guy. Something happened we don't know what chat and guessing is going to be natural. Nothing I say on here is going to effect any outcome or influence anybody else.
Where it may have gone further is if the officer thought that any type of tactical or even defensive training was occurring as in perhaps a Prepper type class. We are not allowed to defend ourselves here in Aus thank goodness most of the crazy's dont have guns. Home invasions still something we never had 10 years ago. I only mention this because Mitch also alluded to it when he said the FAR guys were questioning the shooters about this sort of stuff. Its a reason why a lot of ranges wont allow cammo clothes on the range. A step to far in my opinion camo seems to be one of the fashionable colours in a lot of clothing and my warmest jacket is a cammo.
with all due respect sungazer you still sound like you are picking at straws
like he has to have done something wrong for this to happen
I am not saying that you are crucifying Mitch or his business but you are just putting up an opinion without showing any facts
and you are not the only one doing it
I think you are very knowledgeable with what you are involved with rifles ect related and you have a lot of comp/range experience therefore you know as well as l do about the licensing divisions power over ranges for there templates, law/legislation or not, its not like they are on the shooters side is it
guessing only helps spread sh!t talk, IMHO you really need to have a chat with Mitch to sort out your what you believe is not quite right,
he has asked people to do just that so there is an end to the bullsh!t rumours
now as for the theory about tactical or defensive training being illegal can you give a link to show it is illegal
I consider IPSC as a tactical/defence way of shooting/training and they shoot steel gongs at very close distances, meters away with no shrouds or anything to stop a ricochet
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WCxMgBfgTb0ssaa even has a law enforcement activities discipline
I also disagree with you saying that 10 years ago we never heard of home invasions because we did, just not by the sudanese
to be honest the clubs I have had anything to do with dont allow camo clothing because they do not want to be associated with hunters, and that is fact it has nothing to do with tactical, defensive or the prepper type's, I have had big debates with idiots from clubs who reckon its a good idea, usually the ones enforcing it, farkwits want a dress code so it makes the sport look better, they need to understand that not everyone likes eating paper
so as I said earlier it might be a good idea to drop Mitch an email with what you are thinking
and then get back to us, let us know how you went
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