? ?Wm.Traynor wrote:I had a scope do pretty much that exact same thing, AZZA. Wasn't as dear as a Sako. Under $1000 and the dealer replaced it but I flogged it without trying it.
Boy am I of DownunderDutchman
DownunderDutchman wrote:I don't think I would be lining up to buy a Chinese rifle, but Howa can do as good as any of the over priced rifles on the market. It's a bit like cars, you used to get what you paid for, but not these days, cheaper cars/brands have caught up, and I kinda think it is the same with most other stuff. I own a few Savage rifles and can't fault them, now my shots are no more than 100m and used for bush work not bench stuff. I even own a rare Savage model 25 pump 22LR and is nearly 100 years old, and shoots as well if not better than my other new rimfire rifles, same for my Winchester 94/22m, it's getting close to 40 years of age, solid as a rock and will last a lifetime. Sako's are nice but to pricey for me and would hate taking them bush and knock them around.
bigfellascott wrote:What brand Scope?
DownunderDutchman wrote:? ?Wm.Traynor wrote:I had a scope do pretty much that exact same thing, AZZA. Wasn't as dear as a Sako. Under $1000 and the dealer replaced it but I flogged it without trying it.
Boy am I of DownunderDutchman
Wm.Traynor wrote:DownunderDutchman wrote:? ?Wm.Traynor wrote:I had a scope do pretty much that exact same thing, AZZA. Wasn't as dear as a Sako. Under $1000 and the dealer replaced it but I flogged it without trying it.
Boy am I of DownunderDutchman
I'm jealous of you mate because I have spent a Lot of money on one particular brand that is very well known and all of them have had to be returned.
Would you mind telling us what your el cheapo brand is?
JSS wrote:I had the same on a mid range Leupold ($1000+), i took it in to my lgs who sent it back under lifetime warranty, took about 2 weeks. Wasn't an issue really. No matter how good a brand is sometimes sh!t happens.
AZZA'S HJ47 wrote:JSS wrote:I had the same on a mid range Leupold ($1000+), i took it in to my lgs who sent it back under lifetime warranty, took about 2 weeks. Wasn't an issue really. No matter how good a brand is sometimes sh!t happens.
Same brand as mine
DownunderDutchman wrote:Wm.Traynor wrote:DownunderDutchman wrote:[quo?
Will it stay together with 338 ammo or the likes? Not sure as the hottest I use is probably the Russian tail wad slugs in 12G, my scout rifle uses a scout scope, next in line power wise is my 44m but again uses a scout scope, so the hottest load I used the scope on is in 30-30 hand loaded hot Leverevolution 160g, and has no probs. The dials are not bad for the money you pay for it. https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Visionking- ... 3671351488? or https://www.aliexpress.com/wholesale?tr ... aqckT#rwid
Hey thx for the kind offer! If I really wanted to see if it holds up I would put it on my XM12, load a few of my Russian tailwad handloaded slugs and see what would happen, although I would not be surprised if it would not break as I have used some no name cheap ass China made throw away can't be legit as it has no brand name and high $$$ to match red dots on many of my shotguns, and never had one fail, now maybe put it on my HW97 and let that massive spring try and do something to it!SCJ429 wrote:DownunderDutchman wrote:Wm.Traynor wrote:DownunderDutchman wrote:[quo?
Will it stay together with 338 ammo or the likes? Not sure as the hottest I use is probably the Russian tail wad slugs in 12G, my scout rifle uses a scout scope, next in line power wise is my 44m but again uses a scout scope, so the hottest load I used the scope on is in 30-30 hand loaded hot Leverevolution 160g, and has no probs. The dials are not bad for the money you pay for it. https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Visionking- ... 3671351488? or https://www.aliexpress.com/wholesale?tr ... aqckT#rwid
Hey Dutch, I am a civic minded citizen and to that end I would be happy to conduct destructive testing of your Vision King scope for you by bolting it to a big bore. I will even send you back the remain of the scope along with my report.
Have you used any of their scopes with more magnification and target turrets?
JSS wrote:That's right SC, and Dutchman don't forget there are many levels of quality coming out of any country including China. If you think that just because something of good quality is produced in a country that everything that comes from that country is the same quality you're kidding yourself.
Many companies have manufacturing in China under their own strict levels of quality control, there are also plenty of cheap nasty production lines that just mass produce absolute crap just like in every other country.
While there's nothing wrong with buying cheap stuff if that's what you want. I find it hilarious how those who buy the cheap stuff are always trying to justify their choices and put s**t on those who choose to spend more money and call them suckers.
Not always, but more often than not you get what you pay for. If that wasn't the case we'd all be walking around in dunlop volleys and driving Mahindras and Tatas.
JSS wrote:That's right SC, and Dutchman don't forget there are many levels of quality coming out of any country including China. If you think that just because something of good quality is produced in a country that everything that comes from that country is the same quality you're kidding yourself.
Many companies have manufacturing in China under their own strict levels of quality control, there are also plenty of cheap nasty production lines that just mass produce absolute crap just like in every other country.
While there's nothing wrong with buying cheap stuff if that's what you want. I find it hilarious how those who buy the cheap stuff are always trying to justify their choices and put s**t on those who choose to spend more money and call them suckers.
Not always, but more often than not you get what you pay for. If that wasn't the case we'd all be walking around in dunlop volleys and driving Mahindras and Tatas.
Ziad wrote:Lol.... just do it
I'd it's good you be rich... start upa business to import it. Call it razr vision brand and make your millions