TassieTiger wrote:Chuck Hawks has a generalised recoil table on line but a lot depends on rifle.
I’ve a 260 that recoils as much as a mates 308, but then I’ve an 06 that kills shoulders, more than a 300 win.
bigfellascott wrote:Just shoot lighter projectiles, that makes a fair difference too, better still just use em for hunting that way you aren't shooting a heap of rounds each time you go out, you might get one or 2 shots off in a day hunting, unlike poking paper where you are shooting a fair bit each time out which of course will be telling on ones shoulder if its got issues (shooting off hand isn't anywhere near as hard on ones shoulder I find) shooting off a bench you notice recoil a lot more on cals that have a bit of kick to em.
in2anity wrote:bigfellascott wrote:Just shoot lighter projectiles, that makes a fair difference too, better still just use em for hunting that way you aren't shooting a heap of rounds each time you go out, you might get one or 2 shots off in a day hunting, unlike poking paper where you are shooting a fair bit each time out which of course will be telling on ones shoulder if its got issues (shooting off hand isn't anywhere near as hard on ones shoulder I find) shooting off a bench you notice recoil a lot more on cals that have a bit of kick to em.
The number of young blokes I see flincing from their fancy new large caliber rifles on the rare occasions I visit certain benchrest ranges is cringeworthy. Such a terrible way to enter into the sport. New shooters should be forced to buy rimfire before centerfire
bigfellascott wrote:in2anity wrote:bigfellascott wrote:Just shoot lighter projectiles, that makes a fair difference too, better still just use em for hunting that way you aren't shooting a heap of rounds each time you go out, you might get one or 2 shots off in a day hunting, unlike poking paper where you are shooting a fair bit each time out which of course will be telling on ones shoulder if its got issues (shooting off hand isn't anywhere near as hard on ones shoulder I find) shooting off a bench you notice recoil a lot more on cals that have a bit of kick to em.
The number of young blokes I see flincing from their fancy new large caliber rifles on the rare occasions I visit certain benchrest ranges is cringeworthy. Such a terrible way to enter into the sport. New shooters should be forced to buy rimfire before centerfire
How can they claim to be fully sick bro if they have to use the pipsqueak Most of them have absolutely no bloody idea what they are doing when it comes to choosing a particular cal - bigger is better right?
The good news is we get to buy their bad mistakes cheaply
bigrich wrote:bigfellascott wrote:in2anity wrote:bigfellascott wrote:Just shoot lighter projectiles, that makes a fair difference too, better still just use em for hunting that way you aren't shooting a heap of rounds each time you go out, you might get one or 2 shots off in a day hunting, unlike poking paper where you are shooting a fair bit each time out which of course will be telling on ones shoulder if its got issues (shooting off hand isn't anywhere near as hard on ones shoulder I find) shooting off a bench you notice recoil a lot more on cals that have a bit of kick to em.
The number of young blokes I see flincing from their fancy new large caliber rifles on the rare occasions I visit certain benchrest ranges is cringeworthy. Such a terrible way to enter into the sport. New shooters should be forced to buy rimfire before centerfire
How can they claim to be fully sick bro if they have to use the pipsqueak Most of them have absolutely no bloody idea what they are doing when it comes to choosing a particular cal - bigger is better right?
The good news is we get to buy their bad mistakes cheaply
Ya both right fellas, it is very entertaining to watch some characters at the range. Overheard a couple of characters chatting about how their mate was going to go with his new muzzle braked tac rifle , in 6.5CM . Or another fella trying to sight in a tac rifle at 50 yards, shooting horrible blamed the scope but claiming he’s ex military .
No1Mk3 wrote:G'day Harrynsw,
Think 243 for the Creedmore, for a given load in the same weight rifle 6.6CM is a little higher, about 6 or so ft/lbs. Much easier than the 308, Cheers
Harrynsw wrote:No1Mk3 wrote:G'day Harrynsw,
Think 243 for the Creedmore, for a given load in the same weight rifle 6.6CM is a little higher, about 6 or so ft/lbs. Much easier than the 308, Cheers
Cheers thanks bud, and everyone else for the input
bigfellascott wrote:Harrynsw wrote:No1Mk3 wrote:G'day Harrynsw,
Think 243 for the Creedmore, for a given load in the same weight rifle 6.6CM is a little higher, about 6 or so ft/lbs. Much easier than the 308, Cheers
Cheers thanks bud, and everyone else for the input
130 grain, and I do have a recoil pad, it's a firm rubber type...
Harry what's the lightest projectile weight you've tried in the 308 mate?
Also Harry have you tried a better recoil pad on the rifle, that can make a lot of difference to felt recoil too.
Harrynsw wrote:Hi guys
The old shoulder isn't liking the recoil from the .308, so I want to step it down a couple of notches.
Open to suggestions as well.
PaddyT wrote:i reckon the 6,5 CM has a bit more grunt than the 243, heavier pills, more energy downrange, the 6.5 Grendal is probably very close to the 243. But at the end of the day they are all good calibres to own. I think in terms of getting close to the versatility of the 308 a 6.5CM is as close as your going to get (excepting legalities - you cant shot sambar in Vic with a 6.5)
marksman wrote:TBH I have loaded up 130gr interlocks in my brno 308 thinking I would get a lighter recoil for my young daughter to shoot deer with but the recoil was much stiffer because the powder, 2206 is a faster burn rate, I found that the 150grers loaded with 2208 to have less recoil
she can shoot them but I would rather her not get a flinch, she is 54 kg's
it is fallow we are after but I have been thinking of putting together a creedmore or buy her a 243, she has hinted at taking over my 6mm dasher but that's not happening just yet I have a 6.5x55 she shoots regularly very well, no misses at clays on a berm at 200 but it is on its last legs
IMHO I dont think you would go wrong with the 6.5 creedmore or I believe it would be possible to get the 308 recoil down by as Scott has said a smaller projie with a slower powder
good luck with it
bigfellascott wrote:I'd be looking at a better recoil pad first Harry then if that's not doing it you could always go a Muzzle break (horrible noisy things IMO) but it will help with recoil.
Last resort I guess sell it and find a smaller milder cal to shoot along the lines of what you were thinking.
Another thing is if you are going to be going to a range regularly, perhaps see what smaller cals people are shooting and see if you can have a few shots out of those to work out whether the cal is suited to you, will save a lot of hassles down the track in case you find something you think you will be ok with is in fact similar to what you have now.
PaddyT wrote:i reckon the 6,5 CM has a bit more grunt than the 243, heavier pills, more energy downrange, the 6.5 Grendal is probably very close to the 243. But at the end of the day they are all good calibres to own. I think in terms of getting close to the versatility of the 308 a 6.5CM is as close as your going to get (excepting legalities - you cant shot sambar in Vic with a 6.5)
marksman wrote:TBH I have loaded up 130gr interlocks in my brno 308 thinking I would get a lighter recoil for my young daughter to shoot deer with but the recoil was much stiffer because the powder, 2206 is a faster burn rate, I found that the 150grers loaded with 2208 to have less recoil
she can shoot them but I would rather her not get a flinch, she is 54 kg's
it is fallow we are after but I have been thinking of putting together a creedmore or buy her a 243, she has hinted at taking over my 6mm dasher but that's not happening just yet I have a 6.5x55 she shoots regularly very well, no misses at clays on a berm at 200 but it is on its last legs
IMHO I dont think you would go wrong with the 6.5 creedmore or I believe it would be possible to get the 308 recoil down by as Scott has said a smaller projie with a slower powder
good luck with it
Harrynsw wrote:PaddyT wrote:i reckon the 6,5 CM has a bit more grunt than the 243, heavier pills, more energy downrange, the 6.5 Grendal is probably very close to the 243. But at the end of the day they are all good calibres to own. I think in terms of getting close to the versatility of the 308 a 6.5CM is as close as your going to get (excepting legalities - you cant shot sambar in Vic with a 6.5)
Is it a legality though? Or a guideline?