allthegearandnoidea wrote:Pre 1910 temp records are widely acknowledged by all credible sources to be unreliable. That's why BOM doesnt use em. Thought everyone knew that. BTW - Your source is Sky News Talk about drinking the media Koolaid Keep Googling champ
Bill wrote:Peter988 if it was a dry and as hot as it is now, then no it would make no diff.
My 2c. Insurance costs should been born by thou in fire zones, you want the tree change then wear the risks and costs
We should have had a Squadron of fire bombers years ago.
RFS volunteers should be paid to compensate for their efforts
allthegearandnoidea wrote:As Donald Horne said...
Australia is a lucky country run by second rate people.
Reactive sound bites for the Channel Nine news is what passes for informed debate. Time for a national conversation on where we see Australia in 50 and 100 years. WHERE WAS THE. PLAN FOR THIS?
The PM should have worked out and communicated a projection of all possible eventualities with trigger points at each stage showing when the army would be deployed and where and when evacuations would be called etcetc
It appears that the Govt was caught unawares
Mmm what is that line they parrot on 2gb and Sky News? "Australia is a land of frequent bushfires" scomo goes to Hawaii and is shamed into apologising on TV for not realising that the fires that had staffed before he left had the capacity to spread and get worse.
NSW minister Elliot goes MIA but WON'T be sacked cos he's a faction boss
What was that about second rate leaders?
Roo farmer wrote:What nobody seems to want to talk about, is that as time goes on, there are more 'lifestyle properties'. Where people like to live on their 'farm' but drive into the city each day for their job.
Nothing wrong with this at all.
But, unfortunately, a lot of them don't understand the need to keep their grass under control and have some firefighting equipment ready to go.
You can't expect to live in a place like that, and then just expect the CFS to show up on your door when there is a fire, and then blame the prime minister when you get burnt out.
Not everyone is in this category of course, but it is becoming more common than it used to be.
Roo farmer wrote:What nobody seems to want to talk about, is that as time goes on, there are more 'lifestyle properties'. Where people like to live on their 'farm' but drive into the city each day for their job.
Nothing wrong with this at all.
But, unfortunately, a lot of them don't understand the need to keep their grass under control and have some firefighting equipment ready to go.
You can't expect to live in a place like that, and then just expect the CFS to show up on your door when there is a fire, and then blame the prime minister when you get burnt out.
Not everyone is in this category of course, but it is becoming more common than it used to be.
Bill wrote:thats might be the case bigrich but the rabid right whingers are not taking the blame for the current balls up, Liberal National retards reduced funding to NPWS/RFS and made hazard reduction even tougher in the short season they can perform it in.
Scomo rejected pleas for additional funding for Aerial bombers yet donate over $100k of taxpayers funds to his own personal church WTF
Bill wrote:None of those fires had a dry period and heat build up that contributed to our current predicament BFS so whats the point your trying to make ?.
if anything we have got better satellite technology, improved communication and lives have been saved. Also revious prime minister probably would have heeded warning given 9 months earlier. ..... which probably wouldnt have changed the current outcome as the bush is just too dry as demonstrated by areas that had hazard reduction in the previous fews years and they still blew up.
Bill wrote:None of those fires had a dry period and heat build up that contributed to our current predicament BFS so whats the point your trying to make ?.
if anything we have got better satellite technology, improved communication and lives have been saved. Also revious prime minister probably would have heeded warning given 9 months earlier. ..... which probably wouldnt have changed the current outcome as the bush is just too dry as demonstrated by areas that had hazard reduction in the previous fews years and they still blew up.
Bill wrote:Trekin if you dont keep up with the news down south then im not sure why your commenting, plenty of places that had hazard reduction recently and they went up.
RFS hey, that would be like my dad and uncle who have 100 years experience between em.