SAVAGE LEE ENFIELD NO.4 MK I

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Re: SAVAGE LEE ENFIELD NO.4 MK I

Post by JimTom » 01 Jan 2020, 4:48 pm

Great job mate. That come up an absolute treat. Much envy. :mrgreen: :drinks: :drinks:
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Re: SAVAGE LEE ENFIELD NO.4 MK I

Post by SHV » 01 Jan 2020, 5:53 pm

JimTom wrote:Great job mate. That come up an absolute treat. Much envy. :mrgreen: :drinks: :drinks:

thanks :D
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Re: SAVAGE LEE ENFIELD NO.4 MK I

Post by SHV » 01 Jan 2020, 6:02 pm

8x57 wrote:Are you planning on hunting with it ? I’ve taken mine on a few trips found it great for brassing up mobs of pigs.


yes, at least make one or two successful hunting trip then keep it for my son, I've got a sporterized long branch No. 4 for regular hunting although the barrel needs to be replaced, any suggestions? I'd like to replace a short barrel and keep the iron sight

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Re: SAVAGE LEE ENFIELD NO.4 MK I

Post by SHV » 01 Jan 2020, 6:06 pm

not too bad for a 200 dollars long branch No. 4 even the barrel needs to be replaced

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Re: SAVAGE LEE ENFIELD NO.4 MK I

Post by in2anity » 01 Jan 2020, 6:11 pm

SHV wrote:I've got a sporterized long branch No. 4 although the barrel needs to be replaced, any suggestions? I'd like to replace a short barrel and keep the iron sight

Try T-Bone Shipwriting in Coogee - he’s placing a Lothar-Walther order in Feb so you could probably order the exact profile to match your stock. Otherwise I know he usually stocks extra No 4 barrels - you might just need to to wait until after the shipment arrives (when he has plenty of fresh stock).
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Re: SAVAGE LEE ENFIELD NO.4 MK I

Post by SHV » 04 Jan 2020, 12:32 pm

in2anity wrote:Try T-Bone Shipwriting in Coogee - he’s placing a Lothar-Walther order in Feb so you could probably order the exact profile to match your stock. Otherwise I know he usually stocks extra No 4 barrels - you might just need to to wait until after the shipment arrives (when he has plenty of fresh stock).

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Re: SAVAGE LEE ENFIELD NO.4 MK I

Post by SHV » 04 Jan 2020, 12:35 pm

got 101 year old spare parts form No.1 MK 3, brass butt plate, very similar size and shape

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Re: SAVAGE LEE ENFIELD NO.4 MK I

Post by SHV » 04 Jan 2020, 12:38 pm

need a little fitting, looks better than the alloy one

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Re: SAVAGE LEE ENFIELD NO.4 MK I

Post by SHV » 04 Jan 2020, 11:50 pm

slightly polish the rear stock to match the front stock pattern and colour
fresh timber looks pale but will turns red/amber after few week/month

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Re: SAVAGE LEE ENFIELD NO.4 MK I

Post by SHV » 04 Jan 2020, 11:51 pm

other side

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Re: SAVAGE LEE ENFIELD NO.4 MK I

Post by Bridgy » 05 Jan 2020, 10:11 am

I keep telling myself I don't need a No 4 and then I see this...

What a beautiful rifle!
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Re: SAVAGE LEE ENFIELD NO.4 MK I

Post by SHV » 14 Jan 2020, 8:47 pm

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Re: SAVAGE LEE ENFIELD NO.4 MK I

Post by SHV » 14 Jan 2020, 8:51 pm

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Re: SAVAGE LEE ENFIELD NO.4 MK I

Post by in2anity » 01 Feb 2020, 4:39 pm

I just got my own #4 mk1* (for service comp):

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Except mine has a dirty little secret ;) 8-)

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Re: SAVAGE LEE ENFIELD NO.4 MK I

Post by SHV » 01 Feb 2020, 8:32 pm

in2anity wrote:I just got my own #4 mk1* (for service comp):

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Except mine has a dirty little secret ;) 8-)

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how much roughly you paid for the barrel inc. fitting? thanks
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Re: SAVAGE LEE ENFIELD NO.4 MK I

Post by SHV » 07 Feb 2020, 7:42 pm

finally got time to test the No.4 at St Mary's 50m indoor shooting range

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Re: SAVAGE LEE ENFIELD NO.4 MK I

Post by SHV » 07 Feb 2020, 7:44 pm

first (only) 3 shot group this evening
aimed at the bottom edge of the big red dot, 300 yard peep sight, 18cm higher at 50 meters

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Re: SAVAGE LEE ENFIELD NO.4 MK I

Post by SHV » 07 Feb 2020, 7:46 pm

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Re: SAVAGE LEE ENFIELD NO.4 MK I

Post by Wm.Traynor » 08 Feb 2020, 11:34 am

Good Shooting! :D It's a keeper :thumbsup:
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Re: SAVAGE LEE ENFIELD NO.4 MK I

Post by ScottyD » 08 Feb 2020, 12:18 pm

That's fantastic, congratulations.
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Re: SAVAGE LEE ENFIELD NO.4 MK I

Post by in2anity » 08 Feb 2020, 5:44 pm

SHV I’m trying to get a handle on how these savage no4s should group, approximately how were your 5 and 10 shot groups? Did you shoot much past 3?
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Re: SAVAGE LEE ENFIELD NO.4 MK I

Post by SHV » 09 Feb 2020, 3:48 pm

thanks guys :friends:
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Re: SAVAGE LEE ENFIELD NO.4 MK I

Post by SHV » 09 Feb 2020, 3:52 pm

in2anity wrote:SHV I’m trying to get a handle on how these savage no4s should group, approximately how were your 5 and 10 shot groups? Did you shoot much past 3?



nope that's the only 3 shots at the range, will try some 5 shot group next time
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if you visit St Mary's frequently you may try it by yourself :D
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Re: SAVAGE LEE ENFIELD NO.4 MK I

Post by Jt-2019 » 09 Feb 2020, 6:21 pm

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Dude mint!
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Re: SAVAGE LEE ENFIELD NO.4 MK I

Post by dogmatix » 24 Feb 2020, 11:42 am

Nice. Good to see you shooting it.
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Re: SAVAGE LEE ENFIELD NO.4 MK I

Post by in2anity » 24 Feb 2020, 2:57 pm

SHV what ammo are you using there? Mine doesn't seem to like S&B at all. My 174gr SMK handloads on the other hand go sub-moa for the first 3 at 100m. Opens up more as the barrel heats, but it'll put the first ten into 3" at 100m (with iron sights), probably better scoped.
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Re: SAVAGE LEE ENFIELD NO.4 MK I

Post by SHV » 24 Feb 2020, 7:33 pm

in2anity wrote:SHV what ammo are you using there? Mine doesn't seem to like S&B at all. My 174gr SMK handloads on the other hand go sub-moa for the first 3 at 100m. Opens up more as the barrel heats, but it'll put the first ten into 3" at 100m (with iron sights), probably better scoped.


S&B at indoor range, PPU at farm, only shot 6 rounds in total. seems both not too bad, the mount I use on LB No.4 bought from RPGfirearms, seems hold zero no problem
No.4's sight is the best iron sight I've tried ever, I believe can shoot MOA not too hard
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Re: SAVAGE LEE ENFIELD NO.4 MK I

Post by in2anity » 24 Feb 2020, 8:04 pm

SHV wrote:S&B at indoor range, PPU at farm, only shot 6 rounds in total. seems both not too bad, the mount I use on LB No.4 bought from RPGfirearms, seems hold zero no problem
No.4's sight is the best iron sight I've tried ever, I believe can shoot MOA not too hard


I reckon you might see an improvement with handloads, both those brands are not known for their accuracy in the LEs. I have a hunch this is largely due to the shorter seating depth. I know for a fact that the S&B stuff is a full 40 thou shorter than my handloads, and my handloads are already being jumped due to OAL limitations. I'm going to pull all my remaining S&B and reseat over some adi extruded powder (interestingly the factory S&B 303 ammo uses ball powder).

Also (allegedly) a flat base bullet in a two groove bore can sometimes yield better stabilization... allegedly ;)

With a good sight picture, yes you can shoot them surprisingly accurately - I was impressed to see (give or take) around a minute of angle for those opening cold-bore shots. Part of the problem is eye fatigue and sight picture - stare at green grass sometimes to freshen the eyes. Another part is stock stresses W.R.T. heat; particulary with the partially-bedded forend.

Also I ordered a spare front sight from the UK, then filed it to a bit of a point (still blessed with sharp eyes :P ). Then I use a 6-o’clock hold to get my elevation as consistent as I can.

I’m gonna bed my action in an attempt to make it more consistent over the longer matches - they get pretty hot, particularly for a longer 32 round+ match with rapids and snaps.
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Re: SAVAGE LEE ENFIELD NO.4 MK I

Post by SHV » 21 May 2020, 6:30 pm

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Re: SAVAGE LEE ENFIELD NO.4 MK I

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