TassieTiger wrote:Nope. None at all. Been in your shoes. Bought the AR scope against advice and soon realised my mistake.
These guys are not trying to be asshats, they know a thing or two and have probably forgotten more about shooting than you and me currently know.
I can’t talk about previous threads - it I can tell you there is something of a language barrier between newbies and long termers...and I don’t think there is a way to learn that shortfall without moving through the steps yourself...like an old guy telling you to not spend money on the engine of your first car.
If you ask someone who has been around shooting, for their best value scope for 300m - they aren’t going to reply with anything in the budget or economy range - as they have already walked the path...but typically, a newbie won’t want to spend $1500 on a scope - because, put dimply - you don’t know, what you don’t know...but in 5 or 10 years time, you’ll be answering the questions- not asking them - and you’ll be advising on a $1500 scope as well..,
TassieTiger wrote:I had the bushnell AR 4.5 / 18 and I have replaced it with a vx2 6-18 for 223 shooting and it is not even in the same arena - the Leo vx2 clarity makes the scope feel like it’s much more powerful. The vx3 6.5-20 is another level again in clarity and crispness.
My bushnell elite 4-32 is a decent scope but to be honest - I should have bought a nightgorce or mark 5 Leopold for similar $$$ (watch this space lol) as the bushnell is great to about 20 x where it then starts to lose crispness And ultimately, it’s just not an outright pleasure to use like the vx3’s.
It’s really hard to explain in type how magnification is NOT everything...
I have a vx3 4-14/50 on my 06 and a friend has a mark 4 4-14/50 on his 6.5. When I look through both scopes side by side - it is like the mark 4 is on 18x vs 14x - that is what clarity and crispness can do.
TassieTiger wrote:I had the bushnell AR 4.5 / 18 and I have replaced it with a vx2 6-18 for 223 shooting and it is not even in the same arena - the Leo vx2 clarity makes the scope feel like it’s much more powerful. The vx3 6.5-20 is another level again in clarity and crispness.
My bushnell elite 4-32 is a decent scope but to be honest - I should have bought a nightgorce or mark 5 Leopold for similar $$$ (watch this space lol) as the bushnell is great to about 20 x where it then starts to lose crispness And ultimately, it’s just not an outright pleasure to use like the vx3’s.
It’s really hard to explain in type how magnification is NOT everything...
I have a vx3 4-14/50 on my 06 and a friend has a mark 4 4-14/50 on his 6.5. When I look through both scopes side by side - it is like the mark 4 is on 18x vs 14x - that is what clarity and crispness can do.
Stix wrote:LMAO...Gotta love the selected & targeted moderation...i was wondering how long it would take...
Stix wrote:No doubt this will be moderated too, but i dont think its impolite to state the obvious, that the actions of moderated censorship here dont seem to match the intended & spoken "constitution"...
Blackened wrote:A number of posts in that topic were removed. Some were yours, the majority were not. This was done in a fashion I thought best balanced removing problematic content while maintaining the continuity of the topic, regardless of who posted it.
Any perception of bias against you is your own misperception.
To be blunt mate, I don't give a s**t if someone has been here a day, a decade, whether they share the same views as me or are the polar opposite. It's all the same to me.
In the event I review one of your posts, it's treated exactly the same as had anyone else written the same thing.
You'll notice your reports you made about multiple posts have been actioned. One deleted, one edited.
As always, we will continue to moderate the forum in a way we feel is best for the greater good, and not in a way that is subject to any one member's personal views, feelings, or interpretations.
Peter988 wrote:Should this discussion be making a distinction between shooting paper and hunting? I am a dinosaur. I still shoot bunnies with the fixed 4x32 I bought in 1970. But I am not seeing bunnies as clearly in the spotlight these days so I I think it’s time to join the new world and go a variable 3-9 power. Surely 18 power would be useless for those 20M shots?